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K.I.L.E.R

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The Democrats only have to offer is fear. This party is such a pathetic and insufferable waste of a vote. Every thing is a war against Republicans. Do they put forward ideas or is their ideal furture one of fear and hatred towards the Republicans?

There is a flash on the DNC official site that is neither funny or imformative. It is some of the lowest street gutter politics I have ever seen. It depicts as usual Republicans namely President Bush and VP as evil scientits. I do love political satire even against people I support but it has to be tasteful and well done. This flash is neither, just more hate coming from the left.

DNC Direct link to flash: http://www.democrats.org/scotus/bushenstein.html

things like this have never worked in politics. Especially now against a president with such high approval rating. People will either ignore this or vote against this in 2004. The dems are childish in their hatred towards Bush that is selfdistructing them. This is the biggiest group of simple minded democratic polititions I have seen. They just can't let go of 2000.

More proof this group is incapable of rational thought is the fact that Bush has given them almost everything they have cried for. Bush asks for conservative bills then when he doesn't get them he goes almost all the was towards a Democratic plan. He is basically taking their issues away from them but the Dems are to STUPID and so filled with hatred that they won't come out and claim credit for what they fought for. This based solely on the grounds that it is Bush that signed it. What a bunch of idiots.
 
I thought the first few seconds were funny, but it's pretty childish overall. We've had a conservative majority supreme court (5-4) for the past decade and the result has not been the destruction of the rights depicted in the animation. Hell, they even overturned the communications decency act. And the right to abortion has not been overturned.


I'm sick of supreme court litmus tests. What's the point of entrusting power to someone to judge, if you want to pre-ordain the decisions that they are allowed to handdown?

Judges should be reviewed for their knowledge of the law, fairness/objectivity, and faithfulness to the spirit of the constitution. If we only appoint judges who will vote X on issue X, and Y on issue Y, and Z on issue Z, why not just get rid of the supreme court and depend on the legislative branch only?

If abortionists want to protect choice, then submit it as a constitutional amendment so it becomes an instrument of the court beyond judgement. This continued reliance on pre-filtering for judges who people think will only rule pro-choice is misplaced. Judges, after all, frequently change their position one they get appointed. Previously conservative judges have turned in liberal performances, and vice-versa. Once you're appointed, you can't be recalled, so you are pretty much immune to the electoral and execution/legislative branch.
 
What I found distasteful was the portrayal of being republican a particularly un-American thing. Should all of the issues they bring up be untouchable in terms of what a government might fashion in their mandate?

On the abortion / mother murder thing, I think the unborn child ought to have a right to life outside the womb, the child is alive before birth. The “choiceâ€￾ to engage in intercourse had already been decided on, women ought to be individually responsible for their original choice and bodies. The unborn child is not responsible for that choice. Parents should recognize this and not shrug off responsibility for creating life by killing the baby. Abortion is a truly barbaric practice, particularly after the first trimester, it ought to be banned after first timester with the exception of rare cases.

My 2 cents.
 
I saw the topic subject and assumed it was a discussion of political kitchen design.
 
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no doubt that they are partisan... but they are no where near as bad as teh Republicans were while the Clinton's were in office.. it may not be an excuse, but it goes to show both sides are extremely distrustful of the other.

"What I found distasteful was the portrayal of being republican a particularly un-American thing. Should all of the issues they bring up be untouchable in terms of what a government might fashion in their mandate? "
that's pretty funny... Have you been in the same country as me for the past 2 years?
 
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elchuppa said:
"What I found distasteful was the portrayal of being republican a particularly un-American thing. Should all of the issues they bring up be untouchable in terms of what a government might fashion in their mandate? "
that's pretty funny... Have you been in the same country as me for the past 2 years?
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You will have to explain yourself I don't live in the US I am north of yall. I don't see what is so funny about it.
 
K.I.L.E.R said:
I don't know anything about US politics
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That was my original thought: How would you know anything (or enough to make any decisions) about politics in the US, being a teenager in Australia.
 
no doubt that they are partisan... but they are no where near as bad as teh Republicans were while the Clinton's were in office.. it may not be an excuse, but it goes to show both sides are extremely distrustful of the other.
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Oh please..... :rolleyes:
Let's get one thing straight, they are just as bad as the Republicans. This type of advertisment has been going on for years and years on both side of the fence.
 
RussSchultz said:
K.I.L.E.R said:
I don't know anything about US politics
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That was my original thought: How would you know anything (or enough to make any decisions) about politics in the US, being a teenager in Australia.
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I am not sure if you are aware of this or not Russ but American politics are well broadcast outside of the US. Hrm, maybe not so much in Australia but Canada gets large doses of it while you people know little to nothing about what is going on up here. Not that there is anything particularly wrong with that formula, there are more people living in the state of New York then in Canada as a whole. Anyhow American politics AFAIK from my experience in Canada is that it is common place in the news. That might not be so in other places though.

EDIT:heh, well I don't know where I got the stat suggesting NY state has a larger population.... NY state has approx 19 million people in it while Canada's population is approx 31 million. Anyhow you get the jest of it all.
 
One of the reasons I've considered very heavily becoming an independent is because in the past few years, the democrats have turned into Republican-lite, or they've just turned to sniping without any basis for their lines of argumentation.

There is no intelligent debate going on in the halls of congress anymore, which could be an unfortunate precursor to the downfall of our two party system. Though who knows. Maybe we need more than two parties these days, to shake up the malaise.
 
I've never had any party affiliation because I disagree with the notion that I have to accept a party "platform". I neither agree with the Democrats nor Republicans on most issues. And although I consider myself a small 'l' libertarian, I disagree with the big-L Libertarians too (mostly on how far and quick they want to take things, and how they have a simple explanation for every ill (e.g. governments fault).

I am pro-choice, pro-gay marriage/adoption, anti-gay discrimination (not sure I want it enshrined as a law), pro-minority (but anti quota, reparations, pro to class/need based help), pro-drugs.

But also, pro-gun, pro-military, favor small government, forced privatized saving accounts (Chile, and now, Swedish model), little taxes, pro free market, free trade, globalization, school voucers/choice, anti-most unions, anti most "progressive" laws.

I am not opposed to a social safety net in principle, I am opposed to the current ponzi scheme implementation, which I feel is fundamentally unsound. I am not opposed to publicly funded education, I am opposed to anti-choice. Why do most lefties feel that I should be able to have single-payer health insurance that allows me to choose my doctor, but when it comes to education, I am not allowed to choose my school, but must endure a monopoly British NHS-like system where the institutions themselves are government ran.

Basically, dems and reps annoy me because they just play politics and aren't philosophically consistent (e.g. anti-free trader reps), and Libertarians annoy me because they want to go cold turkey and don't have a realistic pragmatic approach, are incompetent at selling their ideas.

Greens I just depise.
 
Cartoon was pretty damn funny, but you know some of the stuff it was saying was true. Civil Liberties, take a look at the Patriot Act 1 and 2. What about the Family Time Flexibility Act (I think that was the name) they were trying to pass? You know, HR 1119, that would take away overtime and replace it with comp time. That's about the only thing I remember from that cartoon, but if you ask me, it doesn't matter if you're a Republican, Democrat, Independend or what not, they are all the same. And what I mean by that is, they are all pawns of the secret government trying to force everyone into a New World (dis)Order. We need a constitutionalist to get our bill of rights and constitution back. Oh well, ya'll will just laugh at me anyway.

www.infowars.com
www.prisonplanet.com
 
Cartoon was pretty damn funny, but you know some of the stuff it was saying was true. Civil Liberties, take a look at the Patriot Act 1 and 2. What about the Family Time Flexibility Act (I think that was the name) they were trying to pass? You know, HR 1119, that would take away overtime and replace it with comp time. That's about the only thing I remember from that cartoon, but if you ask me, it doesn't matter if you're a Republican, Democrat, Independend or what not, they are all the same. And what I mean by that is, they are all pawns of the secret government trying to force everyone into a New World (dis)Order. We need a constitutionalist to get our bill of rights and constitution back. Oh well, ya'll will just laugh at me anyway.

www.infowars.com
www.prisonplanet.com
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Hey! Here are two sources both Clashman AND Dave H can be skeptical about! :D
 
linthat22 said:
You know, HR 1119, that would take away overtime and replace it with comp time. We need a constitutionalist to get our bill of rights and constitution back. Oh well, ya'll will just laugh at me anyway.
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Compensation issues are not fundamental civil liberties and are not part of the constitution. You don't have a "right" to overtime, X number of vacation days, or number of hours per week. I think its downright absurd that there are even laws governing this.
 
There certainly aren't any laws governing my overtime or days off.

Except the law of supply and demand.
 
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