I'll be trying so hard to wait for price drops that i will convicne myself that there are huge shortages and i won't be able to put my hands on any new console for the next 3 years. Or whenever they'll be half the price.
Current mind share on B3D
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my feeling is 95% interest in Revolution
5% in PS3
0 in Xbox2
5% in PS3
0 in Xbox2
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scooby_dooby
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360 at launch cause I can't wait, got a big TV to be put through it's paces.
PS3 after a few price drops, 2007-2008ish when the games really start flowing and it's nice and affordable.
PS3 after a few price drops, 2007-2008ish when the games really start flowing and it's nice and affordable.
That's probably the best reason for 360. Anyone with an big HD set will surely want to see HD gaming!scooby_dooby said:
Shifty Geezer said:
plug your PC in and see it now for free
Wait and see. Nintendo has been my bread and butter next to my PC since the mid-80s. Nintendo has me looking elsewhere. I have not had a MS console yet but did own a PS1 after some price drops (the N64 did not have GT!). With friends I always have access to basically all the machines. Outside the 3DO, Neo Geo, Lynx, Jaguar, and Turbo Graphics I have played on all the consoles a little bit.
Right now it is coming down to games (PC/FPS/Sports preference). My most sought features for these games are great online support (and absolute must since I HATE playing by myself), HD support for VGA monitors (720p; GCN already does 480p on monitors and I have no monitor that can handle 1080i) and KB/MS if it can be balanced and supported well (both by devs and gamers). The last one seems like a pain because of game balance and fragmenting users so I am cold on that.
Obviously since the 360 is the first one out the gate and has almost 2 dozens games coming out shortly it has the most interest (nothing else to be interested in with Zelda delayed and another 5 years for Half-Life 3!). My friend across the US will get one and it has really good online support. But right now it is, "Lets see the price drop and wait for a killer game or two". PGR3 has me excited as it is the one game that interests me that I cannot find something comparable on the PC or GCN. MS has some nice titles that are good but games like Oblivion (RPG) just don't interest me regardless of how good they are. Working + School means I need something I can get into, play for 15 minutes--online preferrably--and then get back to studying...or posting
So right now, for *purchasing* purposes none interest me. I am going to wait until 2006 and see where things are at with the games and the support and see if any game rolls me over. If not, I would be content to wait until 2007 and get a price break $400 + $40 (VGA cables) + $60game is a lot for a new console for me. $600 for 2 or 3 great games is tooooo much for me.
I will be more happy getting those same great games at $20-$30 and having a broader selection AND getting $100 off or more on the console. Always nice to see what the competition has to offer. Who knows, maybe Nintendo has a ton of back door support being hidden and will have some killer hardware. I like the new controller concept, I hope it works! If it is accurate, then I can see it being FAR easier to use!
Right now it is coming down to games (PC/FPS/Sports preference). My most sought features for these games are great online support (and absolute must since I HATE playing by myself), HD support for VGA monitors (720p; GCN already does 480p on monitors and I have no monitor that can handle 1080i) and KB/MS if it can be balanced and supported well (both by devs and gamers). The last one seems like a pain because of game balance and fragmenting users so I am cold on that.
Obviously since the 360 is the first one out the gate and has almost 2 dozens games coming out shortly it has the most interest (nothing else to be interested in with Zelda delayed and another 5 years for Half-Life 3!). My friend across the US will get one and it has really good online support. But right now it is, "Lets see the price drop and wait for a killer game or two". PGR3 has me excited as it is the one game that interests me that I cannot find something comparable on the PC or GCN. MS has some nice titles that are good but games like Oblivion (RPG) just don't interest me regardless of how good they are. Working + School means I need something I can get into, play for 15 minutes--online preferrably--and then get back to studying...or posting
So right now, for *purchasing* purposes none interest me. I am going to wait until 2006 and see where things are at with the games and the support and see if any game rolls me over. If not, I would be content to wait until 2007 and get a price break
$400 + $40 (VGA cables) + $60game is a lot for a new console for me. $600 for 2 or 3 great games is tooooo much for me.I will be more happy getting those same great games at $20-$30 and having a broader selection AND getting $100 off or more on the console. Always nice to see what the competition has to offer. Who knows, maybe Nintendo has a ton of back door support being hidden and will have some killer hardware. I like the new controller concept, I hope it works! If it is accurate, then I can see it being FAR easier to use!
Alpha_Spartan
Regular
As someone who has never owned a PSX or PS2 but opted out for the Saturn, Dreamcast and Xbox instead, I see no compelling reason to purchase a PS3. I doubt we will ever see a game on the PS3 that can't be done on the Xbox 360 and vice versa. I'm still undecided on the Revolution. I could care less about backwards compatibility since I don't buy systems to play last generation's games. On November 22, I'm done with this generation. I won't touch another Xbox game. 99% of the old NES games you play won't be as fun as when you played them as a child. That's just the way it is. It's like when a group of old college buddies get together and try to go back to the places they visited when they were in college, it's never the same. People change. Expectations change. Tastes change.
Nintendo will have to give me the equivalent of Mario 64 for the N64 when it first came out. I just had to have that game. Each generation I play fewer and fewer Japanese games. As I get older, my tastes change. I've gone from wanting a sequel to Nights and Burning Rangers to just wanting a proper sequel to the Ghost Recon series. Roughly 90% of my tastes are Western. About 50% percent of those games are military themed or sports games. Tastes change. That's why I'm an Xbox gamer. It's just a western console with western games.
I look at games like MGS4 and I can't get excited because I just know that there will be something in the game that breaks that fourth wall and reminds me that it's a Japanese game. There's always this anime-like quirkiness to their "serious" games that I can't get excited about. I remember playing Steel Batallion and being totally turned off by the corny dialog and cheesy music. At 27 years old, I find myself more into Western RPG's (true roleplaying games), western adventure games, sports games, racers and shooters.
At this point in my life, I am to Japanese games as a Japanese gamer is to western games.
Nintendo will have to give me the equivalent of Mario 64 for the N64 when it first came out. I just had to have that game. Each generation I play fewer and fewer Japanese games. As I get older, my tastes change. I've gone from wanting a sequel to Nights and Burning Rangers to just wanting a proper sequel to the Ghost Recon series. Roughly 90% of my tastes are Western. About 50% percent of those games are military themed or sports games. Tastes change. That's why I'm an Xbox gamer. It's just a western console with western games.
I look at games like MGS4 and I can't get excited because I just know that there will be something in the game that breaks that fourth wall and reminds me that it's a Japanese game. There's always this anime-like quirkiness to their "serious" games that I can't get excited about. I remember playing Steel Batallion and being totally turned off by the corny dialog and cheesy music. At 27 years old, I find myself more into Western RPG's (true roleplaying games), western adventure games, sports games, racers and shooters.
At this point in my life, I am to Japanese games as a Japanese gamer is to western games.
Totally off topic, and breaks forum rules...dukmahsik said:
FAQ said:
PS3 for me, probably because there are a few unknowns about it at the moment: RSX especially. Basically the tech excites me. MS, no matter how well they do it, can't do anything that'll surprise me. Probably.
And I do think the PS3 may last it's life time slighty better than the 360. Not sure what I'm basing that on though.
If I had the cash I'd have them in this order:
PS3
360
Rev
And I do think the PS3 may last it's life time slighty better than the 360. Not sure what I'm basing that on though.
If I had the cash I'd have them in this order:
PS3
360
Rev
I've always been more or less exclusive to one console always - first the SNES, then the PlayStation and now the PS2 - not because I can't afford more, but simply because I chose to devote it to one alone (and usually, the one I decided supplied me with more than enough, currently around 40 games on PS2).
Thanks to established franchises and games I've come to enjoy over the past 10 years, the PS3 is naturally an easy bet for me. Not only does it have the franchises I want to play in the future, it also has the support from my favorite developers - mainly being Konami, SquareEnix, Namco and 1st/2nd party Sony developers.
I was pretty close in buying a GameCube this generation though, simply because I see it as a nice addition to my established PS2 collection. Since Revolution seems to be backwards-compatible, I decided to hold back and take the "wait and see" approach.
Xbox360 doesn't interest me at the moment - simply because Sony and Microsoft seem to be going after the same target audience, the Xbox being slightly more in favour of PC games, while Sony's more on Japanese games. This makes it clear in my book that I'm all in favour of the Sony console - while another reason being that it's undeniably the one that's likely to receive much more support and therefore will be targeted as the lead platform in many cases.
Regardless how many games interest me on the Xbox360, I doubt for the above reasons that I would get one. The only thing that could change my mind would be high caliber game by either Konami or SquareEnix, like i.e. MGS4 or a new Final Fantasy game (the real deal and not a side quest). Don't see that happening though, so I guess Xbox won't be in the run for my money.
Technological advantage, to me isn't that big of an issue, though I must say that another thing in favour for the PS3 is the CELL processor and its potential of developers exploring new ways to enhance games unique to that chip. I'd love to see physics play a bigger role in next generation games, including weather effects and what not - I see CELL being an ideal platform for those tasks which is another reason why it's my choice of console.
Thanks to established franchises and games I've come to enjoy over the past 10 years, the PS3 is naturally an easy bet for me. Not only does it have the franchises I want to play in the future, it also has the support from my favorite developers - mainly being Konami, SquareEnix, Namco and 1st/2nd party Sony developers.
I was pretty close in buying a GameCube this generation though, simply because I see it as a nice addition to my established PS2 collection. Since Revolution seems to be backwards-compatible, I decided to hold back and take the "wait and see" approach.
Xbox360 doesn't interest me at the moment - simply because Sony and Microsoft seem to be going after the same target audience, the Xbox being slightly more in favour of PC games, while Sony's more on Japanese games. This makes it clear in my book that I'm all in favour of the Sony console - while another reason being that it's undeniably the one that's likely to receive much more support and therefore will be targeted as the lead platform in many cases.
Regardless how many games interest me on the Xbox360, I doubt for the above reasons that I would get one. The only thing that could change my mind would be high caliber game by either Konami or SquareEnix, like i.e. MGS4 or a new Final Fantasy game (the real deal and not a side quest). Don't see that happening though, so I guess Xbox won't be in the run for my money.
Technological advantage, to me isn't that big of an issue, though I must say that another thing in favour for the PS3 is the CELL processor and its potential of developers exploring new ways to enhance games unique to that chip. I'd love to see physics play a bigger role in next generation games, including weather effects and what not - I see CELL being an ideal platform for those tasks which is another reason why it's my choice of console.
I'll get all 3, but if they were all released on the same day for the same money, my picking up the box (just in case somebody else nabbed one first) would be
Rev,
PS3,
X360
Simple based on the games this gen, GC won hands down for me, then PS2 with Xbox third.
Rev,
PS3,
X360
Simple based on the games this gen, GC won hands down for me, then PS2 with Xbox third.
scooby_dooby
Legend
Phil said:
Undeniably? I really don't know how you can make such an assertion. X360 will have the larger installed base for at least 2 full years, probably much longer than that(analysts are pegging 2008 for PS3 to catch up), which is almost an entire 3 years as the market leader.
In addition, X360 seems to be the easier/cheaper platform for Developers.
To me, none of that adds up to undeniably more support, and I think it would be teh exact opposite. Games will be developed with the X360 as base, and ported to PS3 because X360 will have the larger installed base and will be easier to extract power from.
It's similar to the situation the PS2 was in, but even more favourable. The PS2 was actually harder to extract power from than the XBOX but since it had a 2 year lead where Dev's were forced to do it anyways that wasn't a big factor, this time around the console launching first is also easier(cheaper) to develop for.
If your a dev making games in the next 3 years, what gives you the most bang for your buck? It's simple, multi-platform release with X360 as a base, ported to PS3. If you had to choose one to go with, X360 would be the safest bet being the market leader.
Guys, I don't think this should be turned into a debate thread - just everyone posting their opinion (hoever long and whether you agree or not) and that's it. The debates are waged daily in every other thread on this forum, so I think this one here can offer a nice respite from all that. Just a straight up poll+opinion.
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