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  1. trinibwoy

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    I don't buy that Crossfire is that new or immature. I'm sure they started work on it soon after SLI debuted last year and they had existing technology to build upon. It will get better but I don't think it'll launch in as bad shape as SLI.
     
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    Actually, Jen has been pushing "three year investment" in SLI at this point. Tho when the card drivers came into the timeline (vs getting the mobo chipset right, which must have been job 1 before they could even start poking at driver optimization) is an open question.
     
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    Actually, I hope somebody hacks some mobo drivers somewhere so we can get some apples-to-apples comparisons soon. We really can't judge how much (or little) mobo chipsets are playing into these results.
     
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    cheating? :?
     
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    Haha, yeah I missed that. Since when is Nvidia cheating with SLI? Or is it just fashionable to bung cheating in there whenever Nvidia does anything?
     
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    *waiting for WaltC's newest novel to appear* 8)
     
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    Sorry, my mistake... Please read: "Almost whole year for driver-tuning,..." ;-)
     
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    You can always allege cheating against Nvidia, whether true or not. Like Michael Jackson, if he never touches another boy's ass in his life, little boys everywhere can come out and claim he did and it will be believable :)
     
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    I can believe, that MJ is innocent, but nV's cheating (or driver bugs increasing performance + decreasing image quality?) was revealed many times. /OT
     
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    what about when ATI cheated with quack? A cheat is a cheat IMHO and they've both done it in the past.
     
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    Just to be clear, what was the duration of the time period between Nvidia's first and last uncovered cheat. Some people make it sound like this period defines Nvidia as a company and it gives the impression that it was over a very long period of time. What was it - one year, two, three?
     
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    Just one question: is TNT1/2 able to do trilinear f. with multitexturing? Like e.g. G400 or GF256?
     
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    Yes. Multitexturing and trilinear filtering are orthogonal.
     
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    So is this (scroll down) just a HW limit, or a driver cheat?
     
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    I've always meant to ask. . .is "orthogonal" just techie-speak for "independent", or are y'all pouring more content into that bucket?
     
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    yes. 8)
     
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    You mean the one that turned out to be a legitimate driver bug that when fixed still showed the same level of performance?

    The one that is several years old now and was well before the current Catalyst program?

    Keep digging.
     
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    Hmm, well I think you have to ask yourself if they are still that same company that would behave in the same way towards their customers and potential customers.

    I think the answer is pretty clear when you look at the "Crossfire is DOA" document that became public recently.
     
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    Uh, guys, let's not turn a little good-natured duelling spin between CJ and I into yet another one of those threads. Please?
     
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    That is a good question. But that Crossfire document doesn't say much. I don't subscribe to the ATi is holier than thou ideology. I'm quite sure people there say similar things about Nvidia products. Whether or not they are stupid enough (or brave enough) to let it go public is a different matter. ;)
     
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