Condemned and Full Auto look absolutely killer.

[TEXAN]

Check out these videos for the two games

Under MTV exclusive trailers section

http://www.mtv.com/games/video_games/xbox/index.jhtml

 

[London Geezer]

Yeah... We haven't been talking about those videos enough, i think another thread was badly needed.

And thanks for the link, it's only been posted 89 times here in the last 12 hours.


NEXT!!

 

[hugo]

I don't think they look impressive at all.Even a pair of SLIed 6800Us can pull them off easily.

 

[DigitalSoul]

Its made by "Sega" so he has to post it

I havent seen any posts from this guy thats not related to Sega.

 

[Acert93]

Yeah... We haven't been talking about those videos enough, i think another thread was badly needed.

Come now L-B, we both know the majority of those threads are bashing PD0 and very little time was spent actually discussing the other games.

The good looking games, which was a good percentage of them, do deserve some loving. I know it is popular to bash MS, but some sense of fairness is needed. To re-kick this thread in the right direction...

I totally agree on Condemned.

Personally Condemned really made me pause and go Wow. Not my type of game, but I know people love dark/scary games like Doom and RE. This game has a lighting system like D3, but the texture work is on another planet compared to D3. Really an outstanding title. And it looked like it had some gameplay... hack, slash, shoot, but is still looked like fun for those who like that type of thing. Obviously a good story, variety, and some different weapons and play mechanics will make or break the title as a GAME. But as graphics go I was shocked.

As for the racer... meh. Well, it was not that bad, but PGR 3 really put the other racers to shame IMO. NFS looked next gen enough (just not as nice as PGR), but everything else seemed like a port or really incomplete and needed a lot more detail (the gun shooting one looked like a nice port... fast and fun, but nothing special in graphics except how smooth it was and all the junk blowing up, breaking etc... the other one looked good but nothing special... like a bland CGI from the PS).

 

[hugo]

Talking bout SEGA I can't wait to see Shenmue appearing on either one of the next gen consoles.Wonder which console Yu-san will choose this time around.Chances will be quite slim if this Xbox 1.5 presentations continue to show.

 

[function]

I don't think they look impressive at all.Even a pair of SLIed 6800Us can pull them off easily.

Because what a pair of SLI'd 6800 Ultra's can do isn't impessive at all?

 

[Geeforcer]

I don't think they look impressive at all.Even a pair of SLIed 6800Us can pull them off easily.

Yeah, even a pair of two top-end video card that by itslef cost ~$1,000 but also need another ~$1,000 in other hardware can achive that. Rivaling a two grand case with in pre-relsease games on a $300 system - what is MS thinking?

 

[Geeforcer]

I don't think they look impressive at all.Even a pair of SLIed 6800Us can pull them off easily.

Because what a pair of SLI'd 6800 Ultra's can do isn't impessive at all?

Damnation, I was bested yet again.

 

[function]

I don't think they look impressive at all.Even a pair of SLIed 6800Us can pull them off easily.

Because what a pair of SLI'd 6800 Ultra's can do isn't impessive at all?

Damnation, I was bested yet again.

We both got the 9.50 timestamp (my timezone) so we can call it a draw.

 

[London Geezer]

Personally i wasn't too impressed to Condemned. Cute and all, but nothing amazing, don't know, must have been the video, it was quite low-res afterall...

 

[hugo]

I don't think they look impressive at all.Even a pair of SLIed 6800Us can pull them off easily.

Because what a pair of SLI'd 6800 Ultra's can do isn't impessive at all?

No what bothered me was the fact that how can a tricore PPC@3.5ghz coupled with a next gen GPU be just on par or weaker than the suggested SLIed solution.It's just inexcusable and insult.

 

[DigitalSoul]

I totally agree on Condemned.

Personally Condemned really made me pause and go Wow. Not my type of game, but I know people love dark/scary games like Doom and RE. This game has a lighting system like D3, but the texture work is on another planet compared to D3. Really an outstanding title. And it looked like it had some gameplay... hack, slash, shoot, but is still looked like fun for those who like that type of thing. Obviously a good story, variety, and some different weapons and play mechanics will make or break the title as a GAME. But as graphics go I was shocked.

Yeah I agree, Condemned does look pretty impressive. FullAuto doesn't interest me much though, car combat games arent really my cup of tea........

 

[Nitz Walsh]

No what bothered me was the fact that how can a tricore PPC@3.5ghz coupled with a next gen GPU be just on par or weaker than the suggested SLIed solution.It's just inexcusable and insult.

Of course. Because if you want a faster system, you just keep tacking on cores, a recompile - and VIOLA!

Oh, and ghz is the sole determiner of performance as well.

 

[hugo]

There were an increase of events like vehicle coalitions and other sorts of stuff happening in Full Auto which wasn't possible on the older gen of the console.That's where the developers managed to harness the extra processing power of the XePPC processor.Like what you guys said the video presentations were rushed to meet datelines.LondonBoy metioned earlier on that the first impression was important and I see MS didn't fair well in this aspect.

 

[function]

I don't think they look impressive at all.Even a pair of SLIed 6800Us can pull them off easily.

Because what a pair of SLI'd 6800 Ultra's can do isn't impessive at all?

No what bothered me was the fact that how can a tricore PPC@3.5ghz coupled with a next gen GPU be just on par or weaker than the suggested SLIed solution.It's just inexcusable and insult.

You have a funy idea of what an insult is!

Hardware of any power can be made to look less impreessive depending on the software running on it, and this is pre-release "first generation" software. Also, you do know that the GeForce 6 isn't a terribly old graphics card, and that in SLI mode there are 2 GPUs compared to the 1 in Xbox 2 don't you? Just how big a jump do you think graphics processors go through each generation?

 

[mckmas8808]

New condemned screenshot

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Easy Vape Vaporizer

 

[hugo]

You have a funy idea of what an insult is!

Hardware of any power can be made to look less impreessive depending on the software running on it, and this is pre-release "first generation" software. Also, you do know that the GeForce 6 isn't a terribly old graphics card, and that in SLI mode there are 2 GPUs compared to the 1 in Xbox 2 don't you? Just how big a jump do you think graphics processors go through each generation?

Oh let me just put this straight
if(Next gen GPU >= 2xOlderGPU)
{
R500 != Next gen GPU
}

Just how much difference?I say it's not even enough to justify a 2-3X increase when they're claiming that the R520 is so much better.I thought the Xbox360's R500 GPU was supposed to be the steroid version of the R520 but if this turns out to be true then we should not a see a 2 gen difference between consoles and PCs.No wonder ATi kept delaying the launch the R520 to see how the G70 turns out.

 

[Geeforcer]

New condemned screenshot

You'd think that by now the heads would be, I don't know, round.

 

[jvd]

Sigh .



sli 6800ultras 1000$

athlon fx 55 1000$

1 gig of ddr 400 ram , 200$

By my count thats 2200$ and the x360 alpha kits are putting out better graphics than it .

The final system will be more powerfull than the alpha kits and cost 300$ . Your savings 1900$

To me thats a good deal


edit for got the mobo doh ... add in another 150-200$ for a good sli board