Choosing the sex of your child...

DemoCoder said:
The reality is that people already choose the genetic makeup of their child by choosing the genetic quality of their mate.

Thank you, thank you. I was thinking the same thoughts when reading Saem and KILER's responces. People never look at the whole picture as you stated, instead they just focus on this small window of mutations, Mary Shelley inspired monsters and other undesireable aspects. It pains me to hear it.
 
The scary thing about the sex choosing thing, IMO, is that people are actually shallow enough to care about whether they're having a girl or a boy.

I agree completely. I feel sad for people who want to do this...the sex of your baby is one of the only true surprises in life. I went through almost my entire last pregnancy believing my baby was a girl. The ultrasounds seemed to lack a certain important part a boy would have. Had the name picked out, had the girly stuff dusted off from my daughter, was all set. Well, imagine our surprise when about two weeks before the baby was due we found out it was a boy! That is such a wonderful feeling...finding out the sex of the baby. It wouldn't have been memorable at all if I had known from the get go.

There are people though who "must have a boy"...I always fear those people will make the lives of any of their daughters horrible. (or want a girl and get a boy...etc.)
 
Thank you, thank you. I was thinking the same thoughts when reading Saem and KILER's responces. People never look at the whole picture as you stated, instead they just focus on this small window of mutations, Mary Shelley inspired monsters and other undesireable aspects. It pains me to hear it.

This seems like a flawed point of view. It doesn't happen in nature, in nature genetic diversity is preserved. While if we had genetic manipulation, there would be significantly less genetic diversity.
 
This seems like a flawed point of view. It doesn't happen in nature, in nature genetic diversity is preserved. While if we had genetic manipulation, there would be significantly less genetic diversity.

I believe it will happen in the future... and it shall be for the better, finally mister scissorhands will not be doing any compromises in his futile attempt for over adaptation...

We shall be the ones at the helm of genetic change, and free from the restrictions of the enviromental resources of the past, we shall finally reach what many in the past mistakenly thought was evolution's true final goal...
 
Im not a big one for ethics. Whats so wrong hypothetically with eliminating say downs syndrome from a newborn by a simple genetic twiddle (if and when we will be able to achieve such a feat). And removing undesirable traits (so long as one is sure its not effecting the rest), such as predilection for certain diseases.

Or making them prone to be smarter (whatever that means).

I'm all for 'smart' genetic manipulation, hell Nature isn't all that 'smart' to begin with. Cosmic rays, 3 fold mutation, and the like are completely random processes. The only smart thing is the law of statistics, and the fact that Darwin's laws still hold. On avg the most viable candidate genes will be favored to survive any given environment.
 
Saem said:
Thank you, thank you. I was thinking the same thoughts when reading Saem and KILER's responces. People never look at the whole picture as you stated, instead they just focus on this small window of mutations, Mary Shelley inspired monsters and other undesireable aspects. It pains me to hear it.

This seems like a flawed point of view. It doesn't happen in nature, in nature genetic diversity is preserved. While if we had genetic manipulation, there would be significantly less genetic diversity.

That's another myth about nature. An almost religious one, that nature is in harmony, and self balancing, yadda yadda. Reductions of diversity occur all the time, even without man's influence.

But if you want to look at particular examples in human beings, just look at blond hair/blue/green eyed Europeans. There are only two plausible ways we can account for the existence of blue/green eyes for example:

Either 1) white tribes long ago with blue/green eyes, blond/brown hair, etc decided to not interbreed with any outsiders (or they simply killed them) or 2) some spontaneous mutation continues to keep the genes involved coming back

Why? Because if you crunch the numbers, any population of people with blue/green eyes will have bred the genes responsible out in just a few generations in the presence of only a few people with brown eyes. How to explain the unnatural persistence of these genes which disappear quite quickly in the presence of dominant brown genes. Therefore, white people have been practicing selective breeding with respect to blue/green eyes, and light colored skin and hair.


Another example is the Han in China. Just a few millenia ago, people in China were racially diverse. Now the vast majority of people have brown eyes, black hair, and Han facial structure. Again, how to explain it except through selective breeding or ethnic cleansing?

If people did not attempt to select the genes they wanted to pass onto their children, we would expect them to select mates in a way that would preserve diversity, instead, diversity dropped. Even if you factor in cultural attitudes towards marrying outside your tribe, those attitudes themselves are based on evolutionary biological reasons. (I am in no way saying they are "correct" behaviors in modern society, but there are reasons people have evolved these behaviors)
 
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