Blu-Ray vs AOD

[Panajev2001a]

I think PC-Engine and I had some discussions about Blu-Ray and AOD... if it wasn't PC-Engine I apologize and I will try to change the thread's subject...

June 13, 2003

Toshiba-NEC HD-DVD Proposal Killed By The DVD Forum




Warren's Consumer Electronics Daily reported today (Friday, June 13, 2002) that the DVD Forum killed the Toshiba-NEC proposal on HD-DVD. The Toshiba-NEC proposal for next-generation HD-DVD has been crushed by a vote of the DVD Forum, leaving the field wide open for the rival Blu-ray Disc format. The Blu-ray Disc format had not been submitted to the DVD Forum for consideration and isn't likely to be. Sources familiar with developments confirmed late Thursday that the Advanced Optical Disc (AOD) proposal from Toshiba and NEC was roundly defeated in a vote of the Forum's steering committee earlier in the day. To be adopted as a DVD Forum standard, AOD needed 13 votes but got only six, with nine members abstaining and three voting no. Those voting to reject AOD were Matsushita, Sony, and presumably Philips, all members of the Blu-ray Disc Founders (BDF) group that have developed a blue-laser format outside of the DVD Forum. BDF also includes Hitachi, JVC, LG, Samsung, Pioneer, Thomson and, most recently, Mitsubishi. Besides Toshiba and NEC, among six voting to adopt AOD was Warner Bros. There have been recent signs that Warner Bros. supported the AOD format as part of a unified proposal to incorporate its red-laser-based HD/DVD-9 platform with blue-laser-based AOD. The DVD Forum, Toshiba, NEC and other parties had no immediate comment. Nor was it known whether Toshiba and NEC would resubmit the AOD proposal to the DVD Forum, or join BDF in further development of that format. Toshiba in the past has said it had work-in-progress on a technology that paralleled that of BDF. Aside from similar technical specs and performance, the primary argument for AOD had been the ability to leverage existing DVD-making infrastructure and thereby continue to exploit investments already made in DVD disc manufacturing. Both systems use blue lasers, but AOD proposes using a disc structure identical to that of current DVDs--a good reason for replicators such as Warner Bros. to back the system. Blu-ray is based on a disc with a different substrate structure that will require new manufacturing processes, at a cost that's yet to be revealed, although a spokesman for Philips has said it wasn't a significant variable.

 

[Deepak]

I dont think you can change the thread's subject, once it has been posted!

 

[Fafalada]

Question that begs to be asked here is how does AOD stand a chance to become DVD forum standard when 9 of the 10 members of Blu-Ray group are also members of DVD forum's steering comitee.
Granted Blu-Ray is also a few votes short if the 6 AOD supporters always vote against it :?

 

[Panajev2001a]

The thing is that Blu-Ray is already on the market and has 10 giants in the consumer electronics market backing them up and pushing the format very strongly ( content providers like Disney are supporting Blu-Ray ) and after AOD being denied approval I do not think that except Toshiba and NEC the other DVD forum members would really be so negative about Blu-Ray...

Being DVD 1.5 might have been an advantage for AOD in the transition from DVD, but that doesn't really offset the disadvantages that the format brings due to this legacy issue and it also has much less importance as for Blu-Ray to read DVDs and CDs very little modifications are required ( add another laser or make a new all-in-one laser system like Sony used in PlayStation 2 )...

 

[nonamer]

What are the differences between Bluray and AOD anyhow?

Anyway, I don't think either Bluray or AOD will succeed. There's another better technology out their which I've posted about before. Here's a link I've found about it: http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20030327S0034

 

[cthellis42]

It certainly looks good (the holographic media), but I have my doubt as to how quickly it will be able to come out, how stable they will be, and the price point. Meanwhile, Blu-Ray is already on the market and will only be getting more refined.

It will certainly be replaced at SOME point--technology always is--but I don't see it within two years. Probably more like five, at least.

 

[Psychogenics]

What are the differences between Bluray and AOD anyhow?

Anyway, I don't think either Bluray or AOD will succeed. There's another better technology out their which I've posted about before. Here's a link I've found about it: http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20030327S0034

There's one thing wrong with holographic techonology.....you need big players to be involved like Sony which they can immediatly bring the format to the consumer......without those big players it won't have a chance.....

 

[jvd]

if you need to ask me i will change the tittle .