anexanhume
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Bloomberg on PS5 yields, orders, and price ranges [2020-09-14]
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Surely this is some sort of joke trying to put @London Geezer through extreme stress?
English version of the article is out @ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ut-ps5-forecast-by-4-million-due-to-chip-woes
iceberg187
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High frequencies seemingly coming at a cost.
He's going to have to through the Process to be part of the 3% to own one on launch day.
anexanhume
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That’s not the only reason chips yield poorly. It’s also likely 300 mm^2 or thereabouts. It’s not a 70nm chiplet like AMD is known for.
I still think that is the biggest reason, that some chips are probably not hitting the boost clock stably.
Yield issues .... wow even the look outs on the titanic could have seen that coming
powershift allows them to never have to announce a downclock. to the end user they wont notice if the ps5 hits max clock speed 10% of the time or 90% of the time (numbers out my ass). How would an end user even be able to check it.
I see no correlation between the Bloomberg article and what you're suggesting (or is happening) at the upcoming PS5 event?
Are you saying they can cheat their way out in giving big numbers because nobody is able to spot it?
The event will have to tie down everything about the PS5, they can sneak in a lowered clock figures after prepping the news about yields problems?
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Presentationally, this is bad if your part of the AMD/Sony/TSMC trifecta, consumers don’t care or won't be impacted as long as they can buy a console at a decent price.
It’s always interesting to watch the market react to news like this, Sony’s share price dropped but it may not be them picking up the tab. Of course, if may. It depends on their AMD/TSMC contract. I struggle to muster genuine concern regarding the finances for these multi-billion companies.
I'm not a shareholder so as long as somebody (not me the consumer) eats the cost and I can get a PS5 - of which there will be more than PS4 - I’m good.
It’s always interesting to watch the market react to news like this, Sony’s share price dropped but it may not be them picking up the tab. Of course, if may. It depends on their AMD/TSMC contract. I struggle to muster genuine concern regarding the finances for these multi-billion companies.
I'm not a shareholder so as long as somebody (not me the consumer) eats the cost and I can get a PS5 - of which there will be more than PS4 - I’m good.
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The Bloomberg story doesn't even mention high-clocks being the source of the cause. So, I see no correlation of that being presented in a conference dealing with mostly games and possible pricing.
High clocks usually are part of the causes to lowered yields is that not the case?
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Clocks, size, design, thermal issues, process issues, non-optimal wafers (cost), contamination, packaging defects - and many more. It’s not just clocks.
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