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Best 4K HDR TV's for One X, PS4 Pro [2017-2020]
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Vizio announces OLED sets for fall, with pricing.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...to-take-on-lg-sony-with-an-oled-tv-this-fall/
Will be interesting to see how these compare to the C9 and CX.
Though I think C9 inventory is pretty low now, so by the time these come out in the fall, the direct benchmark might be the CX.
Not clear if they're getting the latest LG panels or 2019.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...to-take-on-lg-sony-with-an-oled-tv-this-fall/
Will be interesting to see how these compare to the C9 and CX.
Though I think C9 inventory is pretty low now, so by the time these come out in the fall, the direct benchmark might be the CX.
Not clear if they're getting the latest LG panels or 2019.
I wonder if they share the platform / base board / components / ODM with xiaomi OLED TV.
Both have the same specs it seems. Also priced aggressively.
Xiaomi will release it in China today or tomorrow IIRC. Dunno when it's worldwide release gonna be.
I know that this is completely anecdotal but this weekend we went to visit one of our friends who we hadn't seen in years. He has this massive LG OLED TV in his living room and honestly I have never, ever seen a TV with as much burn-in in my whole life.
The thing was absolutely ruined, and needless to say it did nothing to placate my anxiety over this.
He is 'one of those' who has their TV settings completely and utterly wrong, but still it was a huge shock to see.
The thing was absolutely ruined, and needless to say it did nothing to placate my anxiety over this.
He is 'one of those' who has their TV settings completely and utterly wrong, but still it was a huge shock to see.
Can you describe the burn in in more detail?
I'm planning to use 48 inch OLED as PC monitor. as currently im using 55 inch lcd and it's too big (need to rotate head).
Although with screen saver enabled, like crt days, burn in should be manageable, I think.
It was so pronounced I don't even know how they watch TV on that thing. Big fat marks from some kind of menu, or clearly some fixed image that was left there for a while. But I can't think how they'd leave the TV menus up for hours, or even days? It was awful and worse than I'd ever seen. If it was my TV I'd have written it off.
Do you know what model or year it was? Supposedly it's less of an issue with model year 2019 or newer.
The LG OLEDs reminds me of Plasma sets in their early days. Even if the model year 2021 has it even better, I'd still be so concerned and worried. It would be one thing if a 65" was only $800 to $900, but they're $2000 or more.
It's like my internet provider, where I pay an extra $50 for the unlimited data plan even though some months I may not exceed my limit or by much, but I don't want to worry about it or have to change my usage patterns. That's one reason I have avoided LG Oled sets for now.
The LG OLEDs reminds me of Plasma sets in their early days. Even if the model year 2021 has it even better, I'd still be so concerned and worried. It would be one thing if a 65" was only $800 to $900, but they're $2000 or more.
It's like my internet provider, where I pay an extra $50 for the unlimited data plan even though some months I may not exceed my limit or by much, but I don't want to worry about it or have to change my usage patterns. That's one reason I have avoided LG Oled sets for now.
It didn't look like a new model, but I have no idea.
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It has to be a very old model or your friends just keep the same news channel on 24/7. Even the 2017 C7/B7 lineup has pixel refresh and screen shift, and those pretty much nullify all burn-in.
This video from rtings shows long-term usage tests on the C7:
Only the test model with 800-1000 hours of CNN without ever turning the TV off, not ever letting pixel refresh do its thing.
They also show a B6 with 9000 hours of "normal" usage (probably up to 8 hours / day) and it has no burn-in at all.
Oh I’m familiar with the tests, which is why it was such a shock to see that mess in real life.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.en...-oled-tv-65-inch-4k-10-bit-hdr-123502815.html
Xiaomi oled tv claims 1ms lag. Probably marketing bullshit
Xiaomi oled tv claims 1ms lag. Probably marketing bullshit
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Sounds like they are mixing pixel response figures and input lag figures somehow...
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What was burned in? Porn burn-in is the worst
What was burned in? Porn burn-in is the worst
You're supposed to watch more than a single two second clip!
Turtle porn is the worst for burn-in. Porn-in!
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I have a 2017 lg b7 that i've pretty much babied since day one. I used to work as a display calibrator and I've pretty much only owned self emissive displays. I still have my b850 samsung plasma kicking around from 2009 in pristine condition (no burn-in).
I have burn in along the right side of my lg oled. The pattern burned in isnt even recognizable to any content I've viewed on it. Its only visible on solid red content. I even zoom in and crop the image when viewing news. I even have a black & white picture mode for my wife to use when she leaves youtube or the news on. These panels also display significant image retention when viewing bright yellow or red content. I wont even play certain games if the hud is at full opacity in hdr
I had the panel replaced twice due to the first panel exhibiting excessive banding and the 2nd panel getting a stuck white pixel in the middle of the screen. The reliability of these lg panels is definitely suspect. Despite this i would still purchase woled again as the picture quality is unrivaled. But buyer beware - these screens are definitely temperamental. Its really misleading that all of these professional reviews are declaring burn-in a solved problem. Especially since these displays are touted as the ultimate gamer tv, its important to know the limitations of the technology.
I have burn in along the right side of my lg oled. The pattern burned in isnt even recognizable to any content I've viewed on it. Its only visible on solid red content. I even zoom in and crop the image when viewing news. I even have a black & white picture mode for my wife to use when she leaves youtube or the news on. These panels also display significant image retention when viewing bright yellow or red content. I wont even play certain games if the hud is at full opacity in hdr
I had the panel replaced twice due to the first panel exhibiting excessive banding and the 2nd panel getting a stuck white pixel in the middle of the screen. The reliability of these lg panels is definitely suspect. Despite this i would still purchase woled again as the picture quality is unrivaled. But buyer beware - these screens are definitely temperamental. Its really misleading that all of these professional reviews are declaring burn-in a solved problem. Especially since these displays are touted as the ultimate gamer tv, its important to know the limitations of the technology.
The tests are nice but hardly indicative of a true scientific study. A handful of TVs operating under different variables isn’t going parse out uneven quality in manufacturing. Anecdotal experiences at AVS forum is probably better because you have way more data to judge the issue but even that isn’t fool proof.
My biggest issue is LG’s response. You would think if the burn in issue was greatly overstated that LG would be actively responding to all the noise on the internet. I think a lot of people would be more comfortable with the situation if LG was more vocal.
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I have two Panasonic plasmas, one from 2011 and the other from 2008 or something like that.
If I buy OLED, it will have to be at a good price, with the thought that I would replace it in about 5 years. Not just burn in but I think refinements and improvements will be coming in the next few years.
OTOH, there really isn't content that I'm wanting really to watch in 4K. I think HDR would be a bigger improvement but most of what I watch is TV so again, no must-watch-now content making me jump in yet.
If I buy OLED, it will have to be at a good price, with the thought that I would replace it in about 5 years. Not just burn in but I think refinements and improvements will be coming in the next few years.
OTOH, there really isn't content that I'm wanting really to watch in 4K. I think HDR would be a bigger improvement but most of what I watch is TV so again, no must-watch-now content making me jump in yet.
I'm thinking of getting the 40 inch vizio to replace my 32inch monoprice monitor (its a 32 inch 4k hdr monitor with 30-60hz freesync) going to wait to see how it performs but could be a really nice monitor.
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