Battlefield 3 announced

[RenegadeRocks]

I waited with BF3 because I had a feeling they would bring out a "complete" version after some months, the Premium offer is still too expensive though IMO

I don't really like how BF3 is handled...Extra maps unable to "normal" users is one thing, but Premium getting extra guns and such that normal doesn't(as well as the queue priority)? It feels like the model in the f2p games

Que priority is a non issue. I haven't seen it benefitting me in anyway till now.a que is still a que, I still have to wait. Its just a tick box feature.
As for guns, there are no premium guns, anybody who buys the dlc gets the guns.

 

[Billy Idol]

I bite.

Tested CQC a few minutes, and I must say...I like it. Have to play more to judge...

 

[RenegadeRocks]

Play 16 player max. It rocks !

 

[RobertR1]

Tried playing it tonight. Origin down. $49.99 saved! Between Dice and Blizzard, I've saved some good money on potential product purchases in the near future. Thanks guys!

 

[neliz]

Tried playing it tonight. Origin down. $49.99 saved! Between Dice and Blizzard, I've saved some good money on potential product purchases in the near future. Thanks guys!

lol @ just they're second service outage this year.

 

[RobertR1]

Oh. I haven't been on BF3 much for a while. Read all the buzz about the new maps and thought I'd take a look.

I stopped playing when trying to go through a whole round on a high ticket server without a blatant hacker was virtually impossible,

 

[Billy Idol]

CQC is really great!!
Love conquest domination in hardcore mode...fun as hell!!!

Damn, need sniper kills!!!

 

[Otto Dafe]

I'm probably the last one to know about this, but just in case, are you guys using Better Battlelog? It integrates bf3stats and symthic charts into battelog, which I find quite awesome.

 

[NRP]

Oh. I haven't been on BF3 much for a while. Read all the buzz about the new maps and thought I'd take a look.

I stopped playing when trying to go through a whole round on a high ticket server without a blatant hacker was virtually impossible,

I wish you would have played with us on the 360 version. Pre-patch BF3 was simply stellar. Lots of intense matches, laughs, and good times. Unfortunately, the patch ruined the gameplay for me, so I haven't played it since.

 

[Billy Idol]

Spawn points broken in CQC imo (happens that I get about 40% spawn killed)...the rest is fun!

 

[Mobius1aic]

My experience so far with Close Quarters has been a mixed bag. On one hand, CQC really requires a nice high framerate in order to play smoothly and responsively since it's so twitch heavy. Also, it goes to show that a very high player count isn't always a great thing, but BF wasn't built originally for such small maps. On the plus side, a decent player will get many kills in such close in fragfests, so it's good for gaining XP, but if you have all the items/weapons/etc, you want, what's the real point beyond just pure enjoyment? The combat in such tight quarters can be very fun though, it's just not very good for anything beyond 32 players. I look forward to Armored Fury, though, as I want more large maps. I'd rather play CoD4 or WaW for close in combat (of which I have been playing WaW quite a bit lately).

It is also nice to know that since I've payed my Premium dues, I will get all the future expansions for free. It is depressing to think though, that unlike BF2, they require internet connections, have no offline bot modes, and probably will never equate to the enjoyment I have with BF2. Who knows, I may be proved wrong about the enjoyment part, but I'm sure they will still be pretty awesome like B2K.

Today I also played some Bad Company 2 online and offline for the first time in probably a year. It's quite interesting to compare how it feels and looks compared to BF3.

Some weapons I hope to see in the future for BF3:

MG3
CETME Ameli
KRISS Super V
Magpul FMG

 

[Billy Idol]

All those cheap stotgun monkeys...shotgun is the new sniper

Man, cqc pushes you up...have now an average of 378 points per minute, nearly 100 points more than before cqc...also, got my third eagle

I am not sure which one I prefer: hardcore mode/normal mode?!?

 

[neliz]

All those cheap stotgun monkeys...shotgun is the new sniper

Man, cqc pushes you up...have now an average of 378 points per minute, nearly 100 points more than before cqc...also, got my third eagle

I am not sure which one I prefer: hardcore mode/normal mode?!?

I guess you have Premium and have been enjoying the 2xXP events all the time?

 

[Billy Idol]

I guess you have Premium and have been enjoying the 2xXP events all the time?

Yeah! That is true...forgot about that! Double XP helps

 

[Billy Idol]

Yeah! That is true...forgot about that! Double XP helps

even without double XP, my average keeps rising...now 395 points per minute.

watched the new trailer...me want.

 

[neliz]

even without double XP, my average keeps rising...now 395 points per minute.

watched the new trailer...me want.

After I reset my stats, I went up from ~380 to now ~500.

Also my AVG accuracy went up after switching from SMG/LMG(12%) to shotguns as well (60%)

I guess the SPAS-12 (Long range) and M1014(CQ) really help with this

 

[RenegadeRocks]

Can't stop watching it ! wish it could come sooner !

 

[Richard]

From Steam, Origin, etc. Sales thread:

I don't understand. The game is coming out not one but TWO years after BF3. it's not being turned into CoD where you get 17 every year if you count the handheld ports and the occasional wii port.

Last CoD for me was 4th for this exact same reason (well, that and the 4 hour SP campaigns with respawn traps and cutscenes every 10 feet). Anyway, sonixx already mentioned most of the points but here's another: DICE has already said one of the things they're hoping to improve for BF4 is VoIP which is something BF3 ought to have had right from the start without having to jump through hoops.

The problem isn't 2 year cycles, per se (despite the fact Premium/4 DLC packs amount to a 1 year cycle in reality). The real problem is two fold:

a) it devalues any investment you make in BF3 (DLC packs, etc.) because most people will move on to BF4. This is arguable but that's the premise EA/DICE start from: if they didn't they wouldn't make BF4. If BF4 bombs and most people don't upgrade, those who do upgrade are left with a dead end game. Either way you lose.

b) many improvements BF3 needs or would benefit from are deferred to the sequel. This isn't even necessarily a conspiracy theory: from a logistics point of view having to develop on a code base and then retroactively fit new features onto another, older, code base is a PitA I have first-hand experience with.

Now, someone could argue that paying 50/60 euros for a game and then paying another 50 for all DLC packs in the next year is good value for money. You could also argue that nobody is forcing people to upgrade to the next game after 2 years. They can't argue, however, that the 50 euros + 50 euros in DLC they paid for BF2 + expansions which lasted 6 years is lower value for money. Not even taking into account BF2 had mods and user levels and whatnot.

So, people might not care (enough) about the drop in value, that's fine. I happen to care. There's no drama. I'm only sad because I like DICE, some devs are members here and Frostbyte is wondrous.

 

[cjo]

They can't argue, however, that the 50 euros + 50 euros in DLC they paid for BF2 + expansions which lasted 6 years is lower value for money.

You'd be surprised what people can/will argue on the internet.

I don't think you should be viewing games as an 'investment'. Some people will upgrade to BF4, some won't, you can probably still play BF3 for a while after BF4 is released. As for value for money, 100 euros for all the playtime you want is pretty good going. I'm up to 176 hours played at the moment, so ~0.56 euros/hour. Compare that to, say, going to the cinema, which probably costs 5 euros/hour if you don't buy any food/drink while you are there. And the cost/hour of BF3 is only going to carry on going down from here on. Regardless of how much other games cost you, it is pretty good value for money whichever way you look at it.

 

[neliz]

You'd be surprised what people can/will argue on the internet.

I don't think you should be viewing games as an 'investment'. Some people will upgrade to BF4, some won't, you can probably still play BF3 for a while after BF4 is released. As for value for money, 100 euros for all the playtime you want is pretty good going. I'm up to 176 hours played at the moment, so ~0.56 euros/hour. Compare that to, say, going to the cinema, which probably costs 5 euros/hour if you don't buy any food/drink while you are there. And the cost/hour of BF3 is only going to carry on going down from here on. Regardless of how much other games cost you, it is pretty good value for money whichever way you look at it.

agree with you here.

I've also noticed that with the arrival of CQC the need for emulation of those kind of settings on the vanilla bf3 maps has gone. Metro TeamDeathmatch? I'm lucky if I can find a server in Brazil since all my favorite servers are empty now. This will probably happen to some of the larger maps when AA comes out.

value wise, even with BF3+Premium I'm getting more out of it then I did with BF3, especially since the gameplay is much more refined.