ATI is going to include Hardware DRM
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What is "DRM"?
Oh, so it's a BAD THING®....got it.jb said:
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The only reason ATI stopped sales of AIW is because the US federal commission were trying to force hardware manufacturers to include the Broadcast Flag in hardware *by law*. When the FCC and it's demand for the broadcast flag were shot down, ATI resumed sales.
Like all companies, ATI will only spend money on this new tech when forced to do so by law.
Like all companies, ATI will only spend money on this new tech when forced to do so by law.
The question is whether or not people want high-def content on their PC's.
Thinking I own it is 99.9% of owning it, IMB.nutball said:
No, the question will be how long will it take for a hack to come out to get around the DRM.DaveBaumann said:
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DaveBaumann said:
If they never get the broadcast flag off the ground, there will still be hi-def content, because the film and tv companies see it as a way of making more money regardless of DRM.
Content producers said the same thing about DAT, CDs and DVD, but they *still* produced the content (and reaped massive rewards) despite the fact those formats are not copyproof.
Claiming they won't produce hi-def content without DRM is the same smokescreen - companies like Sony want new tech so they can sell you new format DVD players, recorders, TVs, movie DVDs, etc and keep making use of that back catalogue to sell you the same titles over again as people upgrade their collections.
Using a company such as Sony as an example is a particularly poor case seeing as they own studios and they are going to be all behind this. However, at present if you don't have DRM then your hardware will just not work with hi-def content as it stands now - plug an HDMI output into a high-def display and without DRM you'll get nothing. If DRM is in the hardware then it can still be disabled should the need arise, but in the meantime you'll actually be able to use you PC with high def displays and hi def content.
DaveBaumann said:
You know it is not true..
It's just a twist to make people accept their DRM mechanism.
if they could they would put it on low res content also : it's already partially
the case, but for DVDs it was easily defeated (a lack of experience ?). Apple and itune has DRM on their audio file which are no better quality than any old tech CD audio.
High definition AND drm are totally unrelated technologies
and some people just try to associate them in the mind of consumers to make it pass more easily (who would buy a technology that allows you to do "less" things).
Content providers are such a powerfull lobby than today or tomorrow you'll need the greenlight of the "industry" to use your usb key (which may be used to transfer audio files), or why not print your own webpage on your printer (it may contain protected content !), and soon you'll have automatic detection of any "unauthorized protocol" going on the internet (you can download webpages but only from selected sites blah blah). The solution seems to be to criminalize everything so that every consumer becomes a law breaker.
At a technical level, of course they are not, but at an implementation level its an unfortunate fact that they are at present. As it stands at the moment supporting DRM in the hardware is an enabler, not a disabler and something that I would presume all of the hardware vendors will be doing at some point.
digitalwanderer said:No, the question will be how long will it take for a hack to come out to get around the DRM.
Indeed. Even if it's built into the hardware, at some point the data will be sent as a video or audio signal somewhere, which can be intercepted. It may be the end for ripping your CDs and stuff for yourself, but the warez community will continue to release mp3s and divx, that's for sure. There will most likely be black market hardware solutions to disable or circumvent it.
Well it's bad only if you steal other people's work without compensation, else you wont notice it. Simple as that.digitalwanderer said:
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From a post i made a while back:
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=535982#535982
epicstruggle said:
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wow, cheater!!!neliz said:
