Apple A9 SoC

Discussion in 'Mobile Devices and SoCs' started by Entropy, Aug 13, 2015.

  1. Voxilla

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  2. pcchen

    pcchen Moderator Moderator Veteran Subscriber

    As for Geekbench, AFAIK they only change compiler when doing a major new release (to keep old results are comparable).
     
  3. Ailuros

    Ailuros Epsilon plus three Legend Subscriber

    Allow me to point out that there's a reason why Kishonti uses T-Rex onscreen for the battery lifetime test.


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    Rys or anyone else from IMG: you're most likely not aware of Apple's schedules, but it won't hurt to ask if you anyone knows when Apple will finally get its OGL_ES 3.1 drivers out?
     
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  4. Entropy

    Entropy Veteran

    Poole just confirmed that they only update the compilers at new version releases, the next being Geekbench 4. Can't reference his post only unfortunately, there are some truly bizarre statements being made in that thread.
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  5. Grall

    Grall Invisible Member Legend

    That would seem to clash with Apple's new strategy of recompiling apps whenever compilers update.
     
  6. Turbotab

    Turbotab Newcomer

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  8. wishiknew

    wishiknew Regular

    Ars Technica have some throttling graphs
     
  9. Voxilla

    Voxilla Regular

    Wondering what CPU will be in the MacBook Air 2016.
     
  10. anexanhume

    anexanhume Veteran

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  11. Arun

    Arun Unknown. Legend

    TSMC's quarterly earnings in July indicated that very few 16nm chips would ship for Q3 (unlike last year where they had several times more volume in the same period nearly exclusively for Apple ) - this indicates Samsung was the lead supplier for launch, but it will be interesting to see if this changes over time.

    It's also interesting to consider whether this is a 16FF process (rather than the 16FF+ that will be used by most other companies) and whether TSMC would get closer to Samsung's area with 16FF+ and/or 16FFC. It is a very impressive technical achievement by Samsung either way (and by Apple for dual-sourcing at product launch on two leading-edge processes, which is more than can be said of any back-end design team in the industry AFAIK!)
     
  12. Turbotab

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  13. anexanhume

    anexanhume Veteran

    Indeed, which is why so many thought it improbable.

    I would assume so. Perhaps if they had independent resources to optimize to each process and there weren't any limitations of one process that forced design changes on the other. It's quite impressive from a management and schedule perspective.
     
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  14. Turbotab

    Turbotab Newcomer

    If TSMC has gotten the iPad Pro order, it should end being quite a lot larger than the A8X. By time you add an extra CPU core, perhaps double the GPU cores and wider memory controller to TSMC's 104.5mm A9 variant, will it be the larger than the 'monster' A5X's 165 mm2!?
     
  15. mczak

    mczak Veteran

    Makes you wonder, is one or the other chip better wrt power consumption? I'd like to see some long running benchmarks on either of them (albeit would need a sample size of more than one chip from each fab to get conclusive results).
     
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  16. tangey

    tangey Veteran

    For chipworks to immediately do TWO A9 chips, would suggest that whatever phone they initially got, had the AP1022 designation on it, and someone said, "hold on, the ifixit one had AP898 on it !."

    So nice bit of luck that their phone had a different chip from the ifixit teardown.
     
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  17. anexanhume

    anexanhume Veteran

  18. McHuj

    McHuj Veteran Subscriber

  19. Turbotab

    Turbotab Newcomer

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  20. McHuj

    McHuj Veteran Subscriber

    Sorry I mistyped. I went in surprised that one version isn't dedicated to a device. From what I know the performance and other characteristics are slightly different and may better suited to one device than the other.
     
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