Another Anand tease...
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IMHO its either PVR or Nvidia. The reasons are simple: Martox has just released their chip, ATI prototypes have been in Anand's and Epic's hand for some time already (more than enough comments show that they know how fast and how R300 is gonna behave in UT2003) and 3DLabs was not mentioned in this article (plus their preview boards have already been out for a little while too AFAIK). For Anand and Epic to be excited about getting to benchmarkt something "special" I think it's got to be new, inthe sense that neither of them has had a chance to see actual hardware of the product in action yet.
We haven't had much news about someone licensing PVR series 3 or 4 yet, but I have faith in them and I think it is possible someone could finally have quitly licensed and produced some higher end PVR tech - it'd most certainly be a very cool surprise!
Additionally to PVR, that leaves Nvidia with either nForce2 or NV30. NV28/18 or something else along those lines hardly counts, as it'd most likely behave 99% like a GF4Ti/MX, which isn't really worth calling it special. I also believe its very well possible that Nvidia has alpha boards of the NV30 ready by now (even in .13 micron - not being ready for mass production isn't the same as not being able to produce anything at all in the process AFAIK), similar to ATI having R300 alpha boards already over 2 months ago. I keep hearing how incredible late NV30 is supposed to be, but most of that noise is generated on forums and by the Inquirer, so I don't buy into NV30 being much more than maybe a month or two late.
Just my 2 cents ...
We haven't had much news about someone licensing PVR series 3 or 4 yet, but I have faith in them and I think it is possible someone could finally have quitly licensed and produced some higher end PVR tech - it'd most certainly be a very cool surprise!
Additionally to PVR, that leaves Nvidia with either nForce2 or NV30. NV28/18 or something else along those lines hardly counts, as it'd most likely behave 99% like a GF4Ti/MX, which isn't really worth calling it special. I also believe its very well possible that Nvidia has alpha boards of the NV30 ready by now (even in .13 micron - not being ready for mass production isn't the same as not being able to produce anything at all in the process AFAIK), similar to ATI having R300 alpha boards already over 2 months ago. I keep hearing how incredible late NV30 is supposed to be, but most of that noise is generated on forums and by the Inquirer, so I don't buy into NV30 being much more than maybe a month or two late.
Just my 2 cents ...
Doomtrooper
Veteran
If its NV product my guess it is not Nv30, Nv28 or a refresh part for the Geforce 4, maybe the card Carmack was given for Doom 3..possibly higher clocked GPU and ram. I just can't see it being the Nv30..just a couple of months ago on the conference call they mentioned record number of tapeouts and the forcasters adjusted Nvidia growth based on 'rumours' of Nv30 delays.
I imagine these rumours were justified by proof as stock prices dropped 15%, historically Nvidia doesn't miss the boat that often.
I imagine these rumours were justified by proof as stock prices dropped 15%, historically Nvidia doesn't miss the boat that often.
Ascended Saiyan
Newcomer
Don't you mean PR for Nvidia.Gollum said:
Just my 3 cents.
I think this time it might be Nvidia's chip Anandtech is talking about because I'm quite sure that the Nv-30 has already tapped out already plus Anandtech said we won't see the benchmarks for this card for sometime to come & to me that just basically rules out the R300.
Bjorn said:
I rather doubt the R300 is being seen, as Anands last comment on benching UT was that the R300 puts all current cards to shame. So I would think he has already spent some time benchmarking it.
Therefore I would think it would be the NV30.. I mean think about it, ATi are gearing up to launch... If I were Nvidia, and had nothing so far, I would atleast gear up my PR machine
Hellbinder
Banned
Ill tell you what it is....
Nv30, not something special
R300, not something special
R/Rv250... ehhh sort of special since no one really knows what it will be capable of...
R9000 MAXX No doubt about it. CLEARLY rates special..
Yes I am aware of all the *official* denials...
Nv30, not something special
R300, not something special
R/Rv250... ehhh sort of special since no one really knows what it will be capable of...
R9000 MAXX No doubt about it. CLEARLY rates special..
Yes I am aware of all the *official* denials...
LittlePenny
Regular
[edit]nevermind[/edit]
Just one quick little comment on "open information." If one engineering firm decided to start hyping their products six months (or more) before release, then we'd all turn up disappointed. Most of the time, these places just don't make their goals.
The best example of this that I can think of was nVidia's TNT, which performed at around half that nVidia originally planned on (and announced).
Besides, secrecy does at least attempt to keep the competition on its toes just a little bit more.
The best example of this that I can think of was nVidia's TNT, which performed at around half that nVidia originally planned on (and announced).
Besides, secrecy does at least attempt to keep the competition on its toes just a little bit more.
Hellbinder[CE said:
I pretty much think the opposite of that.
RV250 is fairly boring, although hopefully it will be the main breadwinner for ATi for a while (actually the economics of RV250 are pretty interesting if you are into that kind of thing, ZZzzZZzzz...). The DC system is more exciting than the card itself, IMO, lol. The same can't be said for R300; that's definitely a special product and an important one for ATi, although I think R400 is "The Big One; it's been in development since December 2001. NV30 sounds promising too, but I won't know anything for sure until September.
MuFu.
P.S. I guess "964"; the slower of the two RV250 reference cards is fairly special as I believe it was the first card in ATi's history to ever boot successfully, first time.