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It is not a multiple clock though when differentiating between them, from a GDDR5X frame-frequency spec though.
Memory types have been labeled based on core speed and data clocks, and I remember some early stories on GDDR5 that were thrown by WCK operating at 2x CK.
MT/s or GT/s would focus on the rate of data being sent over the interface, rather than the specific clock transitions that could be SDR, DDR, DDR but 2x the rate, QDR, ODR, etc.
 
I don't see anything in that document that suggests AMD used those service. They just use the release of Fiji as a hook to launch their own alternative.
Ok does anyone know if AMD developed their own HBM Controller?
NW Logic's controller goes back before Fiji-Fury release.
But yeah it is going to be a pig to fully prove with evidence available on the internet.

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Memory types have been labeled based on core speed and data clocks, and I remember some early stories on GDDR5 that were thrown by WCK operating at 2x CK.
MT/s or GT/s would focus on the rate of data being sent over the interface, rather than the specific clock transitions that could be SDR, DDR, DDR but 2x the rate, QDR, ODR, etc.
Agreed, just that my point is its already messy because a few sites are getting this wrong with regards to reporting clocks, and compounding this further with an effective clock to show a difference.
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I suppose it could make a difference if that specifically marketed HBM controller with HBM1 and HBM2 support were the one in Fiji. That might indicate some flexibility for that chip. Even if AMD didn't design its own, there is no public information either way on its feature set versus the demonstration product or specifications.
 
From the link posted above:

As a result, the coverage we previously posted was incorrect and we’ve received clarification from AMD’s Northern Europe PR and Community Manager, Joe Cowell about a number of recent criticisms. Firstly, AMD will be attending Computex and this was never in doubt. It’s important to remember that AMD always lists their attendance for trade shows in a clear and transparent manner. Secondly, there are no production issues whatsoever with Polaris and it’s on schedule.
 
Supposed new specs for Polaris 10/11

http://videocardz.com/59903/possible-polaris-10-and-polaris-11-specifications-emerge

Polaris 10: 32CU @ ~1350Mhz for 5.5 Tflops.
Polaris 11: 14 CU @ ~1395 for 2.5 Tflops

I think this is more believable due to the higher clock thats to the new process.


Our comment: We received the exact same specifications just few days ago. Although it was noted that those are specifications for mobile GPUs, so you may want to take this into consideration.
If true, mobile Polaris 11 doing 2.5 TFLOPs is quite a feat.
Then again, 150W for mobile Polaris 10 seems like too much, and wouldn't fit in anything but a high-end desktop replacement.

By PS4K docs GPU has 36 CUs at 911Mhz.Doesnt fit with this news.
Well it could have 4 disabled CUs for the GDDR5 mobile version, and the whole 36 CUs for the desktop version with GDDR5X.
 
Makes sense if these are mobile products like Videocardz.com's source stated. It is common to use further cut-down variants to fill mobile niches (e.g. GTX 965m).
 
If true, mobile Polaris 11 doing 2.5 TFLOPs is quite a feat.
Then again, 150W for mobile Polaris 10 seems like too much, and wouldn't fit in anything but a high-end desktop replacement.


Well it could have 4 disabled CUs for the GDDR5 mobile version, and the whole 36 CUs for the desktop version with GDDR5X.


150 w for a mobile isn't bad if they are trying to remove the gtx 980m out of OEM space which uses around the same wattage but this will surely provide much better performance.
 
Makes sense if these are mobile products like Videocardz.com's source stated. It is common to use further cut-down variants to fill mobile niches (e.g. GTX 965m).
yeah, but the 5,5 Tflops figure doesnt have sense.Maybe they are mixing leaks and is right that the 32CUs GPU is mobile and the 5,5 Tflops and 150 watts part is in relation to the 40 CUs desktop part.
 
I actually wouldn't mind that 32CU version for desktop if it is going to be priced as a 380x replacement. I was going to buy 380x but decided to wait for Polaris. But if Polaris ended up only either as a mobile or a higher end desktop parts, then unfortunately I might have to stick to my initial plan on buying 380x. Should be cheaper by the time Polaris launched.
 
New AIDA64 adds Vega 10 aka Greenland.

Version: 5.70.3843 beta (May 11, 2016)
Release notes:

  • preliminary GPU information for AMD Polaris 10 (Ellesmere)
  • preliminary GPU information for AMD Polaris 11 (Baffin)
  • preliminary GPU information for AMD Vega 10 (Greenland)
  • preliminary GPU information for nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (GP104)
 
1.4Ghz for mobile parts sounds too good to be true, desktop parts would be clocking 150-200Mhz above that from what little I've seen of mobile chips vs. their desktop counterparts and it's pretty unlikely that AMD ends up that close to nvidia's new series.
 
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