AMD: Southern Islands (7*** series) Speculation/ Rumour Thread

:smile:, ok its clear you over analyzed my post a bit.
I didn't over analyzed it. The meaning was obvious to me. Your expression was just a bit fuzzy and implied more than you thought. I guess such slight misunderstandings can't be prevented if some people with different native languages communicate. ;)
 
I didn't over analyzed it. The meaning was obvious to me. Your expression was just a bit fuzzy and implied more than you thought. I guess such slight misunderstandings can't be prevented if some people with different native languages communicate. ;)
Your response does suggest that you did, lol. But that's neither here or there at this point. I like to know if you have any information regarding the arch. of the mobile chip. As it's something you mentioned earlier (Pitcairns).
 
Your response does suggest that you did, lol.
No. As I said, the meaning was obvious, I didn't need to analyze anything. You simply didn't follow a basic language rule which distorted what you wanted to express.
But really, I don't think I will get into a further discussion about it in this forum. I thought stating the reason for the misunderstanding is enough, so we can let this stupid stuff behind us.
I like to know if you have any information regarding the arch. of the mobile chip. As it's something you mentioned earlier (Pitcairns).
What more do you need to know besides that it's clearly a fully enabled Pitcairn (20 CUs) at 850MHz coreclock, 1200MHz memory clock, and a TDP of (very probably) 100W?
 
No. As I said, the meaning was obvious, I didn't need to analyze anything. You simply didn't follow a basic language rule which distorted what you wanted to express.
But really, I don't think I will get into a further discussion about it in this forum. I thought stating the reason for the misunderstanding is enough, so we can let this stupid stuff behind us.
I'll ask you again. What did you distort by the phrase "The 7970M is looking more and more like it's using the newer silicon..." When I asked you that before you did admit your misunderstanding. I think it's clear by now that I'm referring to my impressions (something I did mention earlier) :smile:
What more do you need to know besides that it's clearly a fully enabled Pitcairn (20 CUs) at 850MHz coreclock, 1200MHz memory clock, and a TDP of (very probably) 100W?
I didn't ask about the clock rate of the chip but if you had any insight on the arch of the chip itself. So far you haven't provided much (what you provided is found in the links provided earlier). But do want to argue about linguistics about my impressions. In any case, there is no need to argue about it. I'm looking for any additional information about the mobile chip.

At any rate I find that the 7000 series mobile GPU is impressive so far. I've not seen any other mobile chip that can be overclocked that high and offer that kind of results. And there is no competition for it.
 
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It's the exact same silicon (and the same architecture of course) as used for the desktop Pitcairns.

For the language side, read what I wrote above. It's all there. There is nothing to add.
 
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It's the exact same silicon (and the same architecture of course) as used for the desktop Pitcairns.

Now that you stop arguing about linguistics and believe that the silicon is exactly the same where are you getting that information from. Do you have a link or source?
None of your arguing had a thing to do with my original post and you did misunderstood it.
 
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"When" silicon comes out is not that important, what is important is when the model for the silicon was built. That model is based on specific material that is biased to model the eventualities of production silicon. Generally that material is purchased fairly early in the New Product Introduction cycle and all product variants are designed from the model built from that material.
 
"When" silicon comes out is not that important, what is important is when the model for the silicon was built. That model is based on specific material that is biased to model the eventualities of production silicon. Generally that material is purchased fairly early in the New Product Introduction cycle and all product variants are designed from the model built from that material.

Thanks for the insight on this. Seeing results of over 1GHz for 7970m, along with it performance improvements, has me wondering if there was a re look at the 7970. Can you comment about any re look on 7900 series? I recall that you mentioned something about it sometime ago.
 
anything less than 1050Mhz on new 7970 would be weaksauce, even 4890 had a 100Mhz advantage.


is there gonna be a new 7970 or is amd too high-brow to get into little overclocking games with nvidia?
 
Thanks for the insight on this. Seeing results of over 1GHz for 7970m, along with it performance improvements, has me wondering if there was a re look at the 7970. Can you comment about any re look on 7900 series? I recall that you mentioned something about it sometime ago.

What for?
I would rather prefer if they save these performance improvements for Tahiti's real descendant.
I mean if that thing is bigger, packs more shaders and on top of it has 200 MHz superiority. :oops:
 
What for?
I would rather prefer if they save these performance improvements for Tahiti's real descendant.
I mean if that thing is bigger, packs more shaders and on top of it has 200 MHz superiority. :oops:
It was mention in this post. All I'm trying to do is find out if a relook took place for the 7900 series. If so, what exactly was the relook? Was there an evolution made with the Tahiti regarding the new process/chip?
 
They could reevaluate their binsplits and adjust the mapping to the specific models of a slightly updated product line. And all that without a new stepping (which may or may not come in the future).
 
Any news on the dual Tahiti card? I've been too busy to actually follow the usual news and rumors for some time.

leoneazzurro said:
First benches of 7970M: quite a good result against older generation from the competitor

"Quite good" seems like an understatement. Perf/W is mindblowing on that part.
 
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