AMD: Southern Islands (7*** series) Speculation/ Rumour Thread

He expects a lot from driver improvements for this new architecture!

 

It's a completely new architecture so that's likely. All previous ATI/AMD chips were VLIW.

 

Driver updates are going to improve performance significantly. This is the standard line at every launch.

 

I'm glad someone else said it!

 

But that's generally true though (perhaps without significantly). However, one should not base their purchase decision based on that, imo.

 

For a new tech yes.
Fermi couldnt even work with windows in sli for what a year?
And people tell us they make so good drivers right?

I see a card beating 580 that offers me pretty much a high overclock and then a potential driver update with significant upgrades are welcome additions
I enjoy seeing people who have no engineeering or design degree or work for amd tell amd how to design a gaming card.

However, the driver team needs to be on edge if they slack we tell them.

 

According to your own definitions, you can only decide that on January 9th

But we all knew about your Paper launch standards before I guess

http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-en...s-gtx-480-takes-center-stage-at-pax-east-2010

 

Can you two stop bickering about hard/soft/flaccid/paper launch bullshit please? We went through all this with the previous generation with both IHVs, it's really boring. It's clear you both have vested interests and you, neliz, are a self-confessed AMD vendor. So hardly neutral, and your PR spam really doesn't help the signal-to-noise ratio here.

 

Beg a pardon? Trolling how much?
Fermi worked on SLI on windows from the start with outstanding performance. HardOCP even gave silver award to Fermi on SLI, and not to the GTX480...

You might be mistaking it for nVIDIA Surround not working from the start, but thats a feature, not a driver problem. nVIDIA was suprised with Eyefinity, so of course they took more time to implement something similar.

 

Wow, now you get attacked in these forums for quoting someone.

 

Erm... what? Neliz has a strong track record of AMD VPE(*), and he works for a company shipping AMD-based products. No commercial interest there then. Degustator I have no idea how pays his wages, though he has a massive pro-NVIDIA VPE clearly and could possibly be an NVIDIA shill/PR person. Whatever. Their little battle that has (as evidenced by their mututal cross-quoting) been played out for a few years now. It's really not very interesting.

(*) VPE: Vendor Preference Enthusiasm.

 

Still you can not forget its Degustator who has shown his double standards and Neliz was merely pointing this out. You can not call someone fanboy (even if politely) when he is trying to show the truth.

Now back to topic.
Do you guys think 7800 series will get launched on the 9th? i got really nice xmas bonus this year and i was hoping to splash some cash on new rig . SI arch looks really promising so i have my hopes high for the lower tier models.

 

Unfortunately, no, we don't expect those so soon.

Very interesting but not only because of the 'possibility' that all these guys are using alien technology but also the fact that he is mentioning it. I wonder why.
Is there a separate discussion thread on this topic here?

 

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970/31.html

wth crazy memories

 

Sure. It was the other way round a couple of generations ago. This is why it's boring. From both sides. Not that that really counts here but whatever.

 

I have paid for my sins! proud owner of a GTX580
(and I think the idea is we sell the fastest NV & AMD cards as well )

re:availability... if you have connections.. Christmas might come early (even if it's only a day )

 

http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970/Pages/radeon-7970.aspx#3

Still listed as DX11-compliant.
There should be a new version of this emoticon but with red colour not green.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970/5.html

Yeah, specified for 1500 MHz, put to run at 1375 MHz and overclockable to over 1700 MHz. Nice story.

 

Seriously? Didn't your CPU division get the memo? Or is it ATI GPU speaking for ATI CPU?

 

High Performance Computing and High Performance Technical Computing represents about a third of Intel's server revenue so pursuing it is absolutely vital for AMD, and it's clear that the only way to make serious inroads into HPC is by bringing CPU and GPU onto the same die. That's why nVidia is pursuing it's Project Denver and a major reason behind AMD's push in APU.

 

It's hard to overlook the additional logic for HPC, but I don't think its persentage or if you prefer analogy is high enough to make a worthwhile difference. GCN looks like a well rounded architecture; my only other objection is the steep MSRP. If it's temporary though, then no problem at all.