AMD Radeon R9 Fury X Reviews

@Jawed said:

Mystery solved:


5-15% performance hit with better filtering.

I don't understand why the framerates in this video are substantially lower than earlier.
 
@Silent_Buddha said:

Yeah, Nvidia always did have poor filtering quality if left at default. It gives better benchmarks when used in graphics card reviews, however, so Nvidia aren't in a hurry to improve the default filtering quality.

Regards,
SB
 
@trinibwoy said:

It's a massive difference though. Surprised nobody raised it earlier.

I always force AF/ high-quality.
 
@gamervivek said:

Could've used a bigger gun. And I like the waddle waddle of the guy.

Anyway, could've made a difference if different reviewers had it on/off so that Titan X was doing much better or enough better than Fury.
 
@RedVi said:

It honestly looks like a much lower AF setting. Is this still using 16x AF? If it apparently is, then all reviews need to go back to comparing IQ between the manufacturers. The difference is night and day to me. If nvidia cards are only in the performance positions they are because of lower image quality to this degree then to me they aren't ahead at all.
 
@homerdog said:

I have GTX970 with the filtering settings on default and have never noticed terrible AF like this. And I would have noticed it's like Nintendo 64 graphics on the left side. Is it a driver glitch?
 
@gongo said:

Dave, i know you are not working for the consumer team now...but the above issue on the AF needs investigation, asap! The fps gains are what makes AMD Fury X looks bad in BF4! It likely extends to other games...

I had thought AF performance are a non-issue now, but with this and also how PS4 games struggle with low AF...it is an interesting question how much AF impacts the latest rendering engines...
 
@Rurouni said:

gongo said:
Dave, i know you are not working for the consumer team now...but the above issue on the AF needs investigation, asap! The fps gains are what makes AMD Fury X looks bad in BF4! It likely extends to other games...

I had thought AF performance are a non-issue now, but with this and also how PS4 games struggle with low AF...it is an interesting question how much AF impacts the latest rendering engines...
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OT: what do you mean PS4 struggle with low AF? Is it vs the X1 or the overall AMD GPU is struggling with AF? Because afaik, a lot of devs forgot to turn on AF on PS4 and the one that did use AF via patch didn't suffer any performance hit.

Anyway, maybe we need to revisit AF on AMD and Nvidia like the old days where we used to compare AF implementation.
 
@homerdog said:

Man AF has been practically free on PC for so long I can't remember. I always thought it was funny how consoles struggled with it since I've been running at least 8x since I had a 6600GT.
 
@BRiT said:

Jawed said:
Mystery solved:


5-15% performance hit with better filtering.

I don't understand why the framerates in this video are substantially lower than earlier.
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Yeah, I thought the previous TitanX framerates in the earlier video were in the 160 range, and this latest video shows it in the 90-100s. That's a huge drop.
 
@Jawed said:

Fury X is also substantially slower in his most recent recording,


than that seen in post 225. So I think we can ignore the drop.
 
@pjbliverpool said:

Hmm it seems reviewers need to start emphasing control panel settings which give equal quality before commencing with benchmarks. I had no idea the difference in both quality and performance could be that large. And yes, a revisit of FuryX vs 980Ti in light of this would be good.
 
@fellix said:

I always set texture filtering to high quality in NVCP since forever I can remember. I've always bought high-end SKUs from both IHVs, for every upgrade cycle and the general assumption is that in this case, you should at least use/afford top quality texture filtering full time.
 
@Jawed said:

So, which reviewers are making sure that they are testing with equivalent IQ?

Well, HardOCP has just invalidated itself:

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1041709224&postcount=99

This is a very old argument we've had many times in the past, when AMD or NV optimizes people were calling it cheating It is a very old and tired argument.

We use default driver settings, we stated our stance then, and now. Nothing more needs to be said, we used default driver settings, we will continue to use default driver settings.

Thank you for the feedback.
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Next?

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It strikes me that using a driver uninstaller may be creating a false sense of security. What if the fresh driver install does not reset settings to default. If he'd previously forced Titan X to 0xAF, say, and that setting was retained throughout his installs/uninstalls.

Does anyone know if user preferences stick if the driver is uninstalled? Lots of things stick in the registry after uninstall, could this be one of those things?
 
@pharma said:

As Brent at HardOP says,
So, double our workload, and artificially manipulate the experience to our own.

Yeah, no.

I'll stick to letting AMD and NVIDIA provide the gameplay experience they want for their own cards, and we will evaluate that and see which one is better and how they compare.

The reason for using default driver settings has been stated, please reference above posts.
.
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http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1041709323&postcount=106

I agree completely. No one is stopping AMD from changing their default gameplay settings if they feel disadvantaged. This might actually work to AMD's advantage to increase market share, that is until the gamer realizes a simple change will equalize/improve any perceived quality differences.
 
@Razor1 said:

Jawed said:
So, which reviewers are making sure that they are testing with equivalent IQ?

Well, HardOCP has just invalidated itself:

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1041709224&postcount=99


Next?

---

It strikes me that using a driver uninstaller may be creating a false sense of security. What if the fresh driver install does not reset settings to default. If he'd previously forced Titan X to 0xAF, say, and that setting was retained throughout his installs/uninstalls.

Does anyone know if user preferences stick if the driver is uninstalled? Lots of things stick in the registry after uninstall, could this be one of those things?
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Driver defaults settings, not in game settings ;)
 
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