AMD: R9xx Speculation

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/amd-hd6970-update-and-performance-indicators/

Speculations gets me confuse.......

 

20% faster than the 5970 at $500 bucks with a single gpu is my call !

 

Can anyone make head or tail from this?!

So he is saying HD6970 is slower than GTX580 but will be much cheaper and supposedly there's another card in the pipe which they got performance figures for that will blow our minds?

The only other card we know of is dual-gpu HD6990. But performance would hardly blow our minds, it's dual gpu after all. Or is it?

 

So with the latest rumors its slower than the Gtx 580, or should i say not much faster than the 5870?

 

I get nothing from that. Im hoping for a repost or something.

 

The best I have is that its cheaper but with significantly better price/performance.

 

Notice, that statement won't be false, if the HD6970 is 100$ cheaper and 30% faster than GTX580. I cannot think of other combinations of price and performance ratios that would be "stunning", that wouldn't get into the Barts price range, or near GTX580 performance.

I am still curious to hear why AMD first confirmed the 22 nov launch date, then two days later shifted it three weeks. They got information about the (low) stock of the GTX580? Don't have much stock of Caymans and didn't want to run out of it before Christmas, so they delayed it a bit, not seeing a threat from the improved Fermi?

That could seriously backfire in some parts of the world, for example where sellers increase prices at launch to milk early adopters/those uniformed thinking the 6870 is an upgrade to 5870 or maybe the 6970 is an upgrade to 5970. In my region the HD6870 was 25% more expensive at launch than it is now! And it still needs to drop a bit to match the pricing difference there should be compared to 6850, which is priced correctly! (note: the falling dollar prices could play some part in that too, but not the whole!)

My point is: the customer might get ripped of in the end and delay their decision/buy the competitors card if it faster and priced similar.

 

I sure hope it's not another case of 20% better than previous gen. Make it 15% excluding the clock bump. After one full year.

That would be even more pathetic than GTX580. Unless it's some 'wonder chip' with die size close to Barts and priced at $300 I really fail to be stunned.

 

I don't believe in problems with TI mosfets
Come on, you don't find such problem 2 weeks before launch - PCBs have to be ready at such moment if you want to ship them in time.
Clearing inventory? How much inventory can be cleared for 3 more weeks? Will it be better for your image to postpone a launch and set-up partners in order to "clear inventory" in the last moment?

So the question is: what is this problem which they can't solve for a week, but believe will be solved for 3 more weeks.
DB already said that depending where the produced cards are, a simple BIOS change can take month(s).
My guess: either serious driver problem, serious but one that can be solved&verified for 2 weeks (they hope so), either surprised from 580, they had shot too low with Caymen frequencies and since they see oportunity&ability to safely increase these decided to go and shoot

 

Same here!

 

just get a HD 6850
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4623182&postcount=5

 

I thnk you misread. There isn't a problem with the mosfets, rather there was a limited amount of available stock of mosfets that apparently was the problem.

 

Hey, you can't pass up free shipping!

 

And they found out 2 weeks before launch?
And instead of limited amount at launch and explain supply will get better in 3 weeks, they postpone for 3 weeks?
Fine, but if that's what Marketing department thinks as best way of handling limited amount of components, these guys don't deserve to be paid.

 

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/ah_crud_amd_cayman_hd_6970_reportedly_delayed

Is this just a guess??

 

Doesn't compute.

If 6970 were less than 30% faster than 5870, then 6950 would be very close to 6870.

Either they found 6950 could compete with the GTX580 and decided to tweak something a little (frequencies, driver), or they found a last minute bug in the driver.

 

Yes,

I don't think cards will ship until right before the launch.

 

And...???

 

But somebody from AMD promised that the whole lineup will be updated this year. What's wrong with them? Are they going to fail like nVidia with GF100? Why is Antilles delayed for Q1 2011? That can be even launch in March... Almost half a year from now.

 

Are you comparing 2-3 weeks delay with 6 (/12) months delay of Fermi (/with 512SPs enabled)?