AMD: R9xx Speculation

Exactly, if you have less capacity(wafers) coming out properly then the yields would be affected too I would think i.e. less yields being made.



So if you have less waffers been manufactured then there are less chips to use.

You're understanding yield in its speaking term. In manufacturing, yield is the % of each wafer that has working chips. Capacity is the # of wafers you have available.

They don't really affect one another
 
I'm liking the Fud campaign if you can't beat them to market, spread misinformation about their launch and hype up your paper launch. :devilish:
 
Haha, yes nVidia must be behind any negative news about AMD cause bad things never happen to them :)

True it may not be Nvidia directly, but you can't put it past them, but more likely just some angry blogger. I really doubt this came from someone inside TSMC.

What happened with the Barts launch? It was delayed to November, remember?
Hell, OBR and some others were stating that there was a very limited number of cards, AIBs didn't have anything ready, etc.

Well, that wasn't right, so it must be Cayman... not any other ASIC that TSMC is manufacturing right now.
 
Haha, yes nVidia must be behind any negative news about AMD cause bad things never happen to them :)

Bad things sure do happen to them, but this seems a little far-fetched, don't you think?

I mean, first AMD makes RV740 as a pipe-cleaner, then goes on to make Cypress and its little Evergreen buddies for over a year, all yielding fine, then Barts, still yielding fine, and all of a sudden comes Cayman and AMD doesn't know how to make 40nm chips anymore?

Plus, the timing is really convenient.
 
boiwars? Oh my.
I used to like red, but now they're both green. I don't know what to do!

Well now its all about who has the prettier shade of green. Personally I like the one which brings out the colour in my eyes. :LOL:
 
Cayman in single-digit yields is surely a red herring. We'd find that hard to believe if it was nVidia now.

I'm perturbed like everyone else over the lack of Cayman details but for AMD to go to that extreme failure, after watching nVidia do it? No, logic says that's just not possible at all lol.
 
Could someone help me understand the quote attached to this slide.

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From Hexus: http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=27110
Based on these numbers, the 6970 looks like it could boast about 20 per cent greater performance than its predecessor and even gain a ten per cent lead over NVIDIA's best. However, if the rumours of a GTX 580 which is 20 per cent faster than the GTX 480 come to bear, the Radeon will once again be forced to settle for second place.
 
Could someone help me understand the quote attached to this slide.

Someone at Hexus failed math. If that slide is accurate 6970 will trade blows with an/or beat 580. At least if the preliminary review of the 580 techpowerup released is to be believed.
 
Because same can be said for all synthetic benchmarks?

Generally you benchmark in order to be able to make predictions about application performance.

In some instances you benchmark in order to gain insight into architechture, but this is typically done using very specific synthetic tests, targeting the particular issues you are interested in. There have been a few such for GPUs over the years, and they have been used by the more technically minded (you included?).

An application level benchmark that cannot be used for application level predictions, well....
 
Generally you benchmark in order to be able to make predictions about application performance.

An application level benchmark that cannot be used for application level predictions, well....
http://unigine.com/clients/
i see 6 games (1 released) and twice more non-game applications build with their engine.
How much applications were built using 3dmark's engine?
And their tests are exactly that - well-looking tests, no way to predict which way future development will go.
 
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