AMD: Pirate Islands (R* 3** series) Speculation/Rumor Thread

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    Why let product reviews educate the consumer when they can get the money from the "oh something new, must purchase" impulse consumers? Having no product reviews certainly prevents bad press from being known ahead of time. I guess AMD's strategy is now banking on taking uninformed consumers to the bank?

    The thing is, the reviews will always make their rounds and people will find out about the product. Is the first few hundred/thousands of card sales all that important to have burned bridges within the hardware review community?
     
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    Sorry for being thick but where does it say it's AMD he speaks about? I see general trends and mobile being discussed or am I missing something?

    PS. I remember good old days where review sites always were buying their hardware for testing or sourcing it through friendly partners. Only big printed press was privileged and these were days of really good and impartial reviews from small independent websites. Obviously times has changed since and as with everything some of it for better and some for worse.
     
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    There is more context in comments and his followup tweets/replies. Not the mobile benchmarking part ;)
     
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    I think lots of bridges have already been burned. Especially with pcper. I think they started the whole FCAT thing after NV kindly provided the test suite ;) Of course doing lots of damage to AMD. When AMD fixed it and was actually ahead, they stopped using it. On the other hand Ryan was quite vocal in recommending 970 even after the whole 3.5GB fiasco.

    Don't think that went well with AMD. But that's just my uninformed rambling.
     
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    From the conversation, it doesn't seem like they didn't provide them a Fury for review.
    Rather, it seems that AMD restricted the tests that the reviewers can do with the review unit, which IIRC has been common practice for many years.
    We'll see. I'd hate to see PCPer blocked from reviewing AMD cards.

    BTW, lots of clear pictures of watercooled Fury appeared tonight:

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    Well, I've seen that and while I do think it's AMD Ryan is referring to, I can't be sure of that.

    Maybe AMD is trying to copy CDPR but failing at it? I mean The Witcher 3 launch where developer invited not only big gaming press but also popular bloggers and youtubers from around the world a month before official launch? Is it likely that on Tuesday we will only get teaser and be asked to wait for proper launch with benchmarks till later on? That would be a mistake as launching hardware is completely different to launching software as personal experiences matter more in the second case where pure performance data matters more for hardware ... I don't know!?!
     
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    Their glee at the 'death of mantle' was probably the last straw. Though he continued with the Fiji hijinks near Titan X's release.
     
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    Yeah it's pretty clear PCPer leans green but their reporting on FCAT was pretty objective. Didn't realize though that they stopped using it once AMD addressed the issue. That's poor.

    His comment about educating consumers and balanced coverage implies somebody has has something to hide....
     
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    I think so too. And if I had to bet what that is I'd bet on R9 300 being rebrands ;)
     
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    It doesn't.

    and the ones that do,

    http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-...sdk/system-requirements-driver-compatibility/
     
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    Not sure what is going on there. OpenCL 2.0 compliance occurs with Bonaire and later.
     
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    No, I can't believe they'd be that phenomenally deluded; first making a big deal out of how they're making everybody wait extra, only to go like, "ha-ha, sorry, we were just kidding when we said we'd unveil this thing today; we're gonna make you wait even longer!"

    What would even be the POINT of doing that? Seriously. So no, I don't think this is something worth worrying about. This baby's ready to come out now, shit, the water's already broken, pics and specs and even benchmarks are already leaking all over the place. So they'll better show this thing off now, while there's still anything relatively new left to show off.
     
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    PCPer's objectivity does seem questionable, but that aside, restricting the tests that reviewers are allowed to run on the hardware they're evaluating is unacceptable, common though it may be.
     
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    Seriously? "Since when" I'd say, but if this is really going on, then it's gotta be since a very long time.

    Why haven't I heard about this before?
     
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    You reap what you sow.
     
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    Maybe some restrictions regarding games anda settings that use more that 4 GB of memory.
     
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    AMD did it once, for Trinity or Kaveri I think, but only for a certain duration, something like a week. The Tech Report wrote something about it at the time. I do hope it's not a widespread phenomenon, I'm just saying that even if it were, it wouldn't justify doing it.

    Anyway, PCPer's issue is apparently related to the fact that instead of briefing the press, AMD decided to fly in a bunch of fanboys to generate publicity:
    http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-shows-radeon-r9-300-series-cards-to-red-team-plus_165838

    But as long as we still get independent reviews, I don't really care.
     
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    So Ryan is annoyed that AMD is doing a publicity event without him? How is that even relevant to him? Unless they denied him a review sample or something, he sure is being offensive toward something that doesn't concern him.
     
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