AMD: Navi Speculation, Rumours and Discussion [2019-2020]

Big Navi numbers from the Zen3 event.

 

Borderlands 3 4K Badass 61FPS
CoD Modern Warfare 4K Ultra 88FPS.
Gears of War 5 4K Ultra 73FPS.

How does this compare to what we have now?

BTW this is paired up with the new Ryzen 5950X, but I think at this resolution these results aren't being substantially pumped up by the CPU.

 

They used a 2080 Ti.

 

Can't find COD numbers on the couple sites I checked but the GOW5 and BL3 results are ~85% of the RTX3080 according to techpowerup.

 

Borderlands 3: 92% of RTX3080
(Edited, saw min FPS at first)

EDIT2: scratch this comparison, AMD tested Borderlands 3 at Badass, which is above Ultra.

 

On other sites it varies from being slightly slower than 3080 to be faster. We must wait independent benchmarks as usual.

 

GOW5 76 FPS for 3080 vs 73 Big Navi
58 FPS for 2080Ti
according to https://www.techspot.com/review/2110-nvidia-rtx-2080-1440p-gaming-bottleneck/

 

CoD: Modern Warfare: on par with RTX 3090.

 

It depends on the tested system and settings. We have none of them, so it's impossible to get the true scenario.

 

I think there are a lot of questions here. Did AMD enable DXR? Also the borderlands 3 benchmarks I see linked are using DX11, not really familiar with that benchmark, but I'd assume they would spit different number for the "Badass quality" and DX12 used by AMD.

 

AnandTech notes that CoD:MW does not have a standardized benchmark and therefore it's meaningless to compare numbers from different sources.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1615...6000-card-performance-numbers-aiming-for-3080

 

Gears of War 5 Ultra: 95% of a RTX3080

 

Ok, DigitalFoundry has a Borderlands 3 benchmark using Bad Ass settings and DX12.

RTX 3080: 61 FPS
RTX 3090: 71 FPS
RX6xxx: 61 FPS

 

Rumors have their flagship closing in on 30TF. AMD is killing it for gpus too. Lovely time era.

 

Looking good if it's priced like RTX3070 (which is my budget, not saying it shouldn't be priced like RTX3080...).

 

Do you think AMD are deliberately tricking the tech media with this preview?

These could be XT numbers and not the XTX. I mean, AMD would've known that people would do the napkin math to make comparisons with these numbers, and realising that they fall just shy of the RTX 3080.

 

Anandtech sure seems to be suggesting this isn't their flagship.

If this is indeed using a meager 256bit GDDR6 and they price it according to bill-of-materials instead of performance parity with the RTX3080, it's certainly going to throw a wrench on the current GPU market and nvidia's pricing.
No wonder they pushed the 3070 announcement launch towards the day after October 29th.

Edit: a word.

 

So... do we think AMD (a) presented a conservative set of workloads so as to maintain an element of surprise for the 28th or (b) put their best foot forward to try and stall some 3080 sales?

 

Yes it looks to be comfortably faster than the 2080Ti (and thus the 3070) and if it sports 16GB VRAM then it would be a steal at 3070 prices.

Definitely possible. Would be pretty cool if so.

Here's a couple of comparison benchmarks I pulled up:

CoD MW 4K @101fps:

https://wccftech.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-10-gb-ampere-graphics-card-review/13/

GoW 4k @84.4fps:

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-founders-edition/20.html

GoW 4k @81.4fps:

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-review?page=3

 

I think those might be numbers from just the second fastest Navi2x card. Would not be fun otherwise