Hasn't it always been like this, from the day that people first connected an iPod or similar device to the 360 - you can play the songs from that device, but you can't copy them locally?
A comparison of PS3 and 360 as media players
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Hasn't it always been like this, from the day that people first connected an iPod or similar device to the 360 - you can play the songs from that device, but you can't copy them locally?
What surprises me the most is that i am learning this 68 pages into a thread about PS3 and 360 as media players, i took it for granted....
I honestly don't know. I've never considerd consoles to be serious media hubs because of all the codec incompatibilities, video stutters, hd audio issues, etc, so I never really tried to copy a file from removable media to hdd on the 360. I presumed all consoles were perma-gimped in various ways to force you to their own respective video services. But I would have thought at least if one say filmed a home movie and wanted to keep a copy of it on the console hdd, that would have been allowed. I haven't had a ps3 in ages, but I think that was possible on that console at least. I'm really surprised the 360 doesn't allow that, seems a bit bizarre in this day and age. Anyways I guess I'll just leave the usb thumb drives in there for now, maybe I'll just get another Popcorn Hour C-200 to put in that room since it plays everything off our network raid unit perfectly anwyays, and that would give that room full ripped blu-ray network playback support as a bonus.
Yeah, you can copy files to PS3 just fine, but then it gets gimped in other ways.
The Xbox 360 has never allowed the ability to copy any of your existing media to it's own hard drive. But it has always played the content off the USB drives, MP3 players, cameras, or even your home PC over the network. But like I said the only media you can store on the official Xbox hard drive is stuff you've either purchased from Marketplace or if you've used the Rip CD function in the CD player. Sorry folks, but that's always how it's been.
Tommy McClain
AppleTV's digital copy will work with Universal and Fox movies soon:
HBO agrees to allow Universal, Fox movies on Apple's iCloud
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ow_universal_fox_movies_on_apples_icloud.html
HBO agrees to allow Universal, Fox movies on Apple's iCloud
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ow_universal_fox_movies_on_apples_icloud.html
If you use HTTP or DLNA to copy the files, video should perform better on the PS3 HDD. Copying using USB will be limited by the 4Gb FAT file size limit.
With the upcoming PlayMemories, we should be able to ingest HD media better (from HD digital cameras to PS3 directly).
Of note:
I presume that means if you buy the bluray and it comes with digital copy, that you have to wait 6 to 12 months before being able to actually make use of it on iCloud?
I guess the underlying philosophies were MS seeing XB360 as a media extender which wasn't supposed to have local content save for a little download stuff, whereas Sony saw PS3 as a media hub in itself. Given the issues with storing content on either platform and the fact that a proper media server with these working as nodes makes far more sense, it looks like MS were had the better idea. Although it's still convenient to be able to just copy stuff to play it.
Yeah I guess so, I don't normally copy anything to the media nodes, it's usually all streamed from the hosue raid unit. In this case my raid unit is not setup for dlna since no device in my house needs it, but the 360 doesn't see it alas without dlna. Hence I was hoping I could just quickly copy the files to it and be done with it. Maybe they will change their tune on that, I mean I can copy videos to my Windows Phone at will, so maybe they will allow that on the 360 at some point in the future, especially since larger hdd's are so prevalent now.
And the best Media Server turned out to be the PS3 media server (i think it works with the 360 as well?)
I have no idea how normal users would end up using either the 360 nor the PS3 in terms of media. But i do think that the very basic function should be to insert a USB Device and then browse that, both does that, though i think the PS3 might have a advantage with the current typical media in Video Cameras?, MP4, MPEG and AVCHD?
However, i find it a strange and a bit embarrassing that storing pictures and MP3 files from the USB device is a no go on the 360. So much for building custom soundtracks without CD´s and browsing favorite pictures.
Does the 360 support standard media shares from NAS devices?
Hmm... under the new terms, you should be able to download the digital copy from another device as long as you have purchased the movie:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052970203961204577272273439064412.html
You can't stream the digital copy if you have not bought the movie disc(s) yet.
EDIT: Ah ok, I see what you're saying now. Yes, studios typically have a delayed streaming/digital rental release for home videos. That delay -- if present -- may apply universally to both HBO and iTunes. It seems that "only" Universal and Fox are affected by this restriction.
I don't have dlna setup anywhere in the house at all, not even on the raid unit. The raid unit does have standard network shares on it though. All pc's naturally see them perfectly, and the Popcorn Hour C-200 sees them perfectly as well. The 360 doesn't see it at all alas, so I presume it requires dlna, or maybe a pc running windows media center somewhere in the mix. I don't think the PS3 would see it either though back when I had one, I think it needed dlna to be able to see the raid unit.
If I were looking at NAS solutions I would make sure they had DLNA & specific 360 support. Evidently the non-DLNA sharing is via Windows Media Player sharing. http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-360/audio-video-setup-and-use/media
Tommy McClain
It does support dlna (DLNA/UPnP Media Server, PS3/Xbox 360 Support) and a host of other stuff, I just have it all turned off.
You should try and turn it on
My NAS turned out to be pretty neat with the media sharing, the latest Firmware even has MKV transcoding build in.. though i never tried it..http://www.synology.com/support/beta_2011_dsm3.2.php?lang=us
You should try and turn it on
http://www.synology.com/support/beta_2011_dsm3.2.php?lang=us
We actually have the synology ds2411+ loaded up with 3tb hdd's and dsm 3.2, been using it for quite some time now and we love it. But I leave most of those other features off. For one we really don't need it, all the devices in the house work perfectly without it. I don't have any mkv's, etc, either, most of my videos are basically either wmv or h264 now, or blu-ray rips which work perfectly over the network to pc's or popcorn hour units anyways, no stutters, perfect audio, no issues for years now. It's been a trouble free network for quite some time now, very happy with it. Given that I prefer to leave the raid units cpu dedicated to just serving files and nothing more. It maxes out our gigabit network which is how I like it
Although we're patiently waiting for 10gbe to get more affordable since more speed would be nice. The Intel 540 10gbe card leaves me hopeful that cheap cat6 10gbe hardware will be here this year.Similar threads
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