A comparison of PS3 and 360 as media players

[patsu]

Torne PS3 DVR launched yesterday. Seems to appeal to Japanese gamers, according to andriasang.com:
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/03/18/torne_lines_and_sellouts/

Over the past few weeks, there has been some indication that torne would end up being a hit product. Famitsu has been covering the product extensively, with multiple print features and, most recently, a rare peripheral box review. The magazine's editors scored the device three 9s and a 10 and offered it tremendous praise, with the person who gave it a 10 saying that he wanted to give it a 20. []

There's also been indication that the product would be hard to come by. Last month, retail blog Famicom Plaza reported an initial shipment of just 30,000 units.

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Yodobashi staff told Famitsu.com that they expected to sell out of torne in peripheral form before noon.

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While both shops had stock issues for the torne peripheral, there didn't seem to be a problem with the PS3 bundle pack.

 

[Cheezdoodles]

But FAT32 sucks. Neither console supports NTFS or ext and that's fail. Especially with MS since they have the (closed) source code for NTFS.

Why would anyone care about FAT32 vs NTFS when all your gonna do is watch movies?

 

[Rangers]

well, hd movies might be more than 4gb.

though xbox supports the apple file system for files larger than that

 

[Cheezdoodles]

You cannot have files larger than 4gb on FAT32? In that case its a valid point.

I didn't know this,i seem to recall me downloading files larger than this on my old pc.

 

[goonergaz]

You cannot have files larger than 4gb on FAT32? In that case its a valid point.

I didn't know this,i seem to recall me downloading files larger than this on my old pc.

Well he did say about ripping DVDs, so the external HDD is a suitable solution.

 

[London Geezer]

Question time!!

I use Vuze to stream completely-legal-downloaded-no-really-it's-totally-legal videos from my Mac to the PS3. Fabulous, love it, dont have to plug my mac to the TV and all that.
Sometimes though the videos skip, some videos skip a whole lot - to the point of being unplayable - and some videos just a little. Now, i'm assuming this is because the video files aren't exactly 100% perfect, however if i just plug my Mac and play those videos i might get a funny destruction of the video for a second or less, see lots of squares on the screen and then back to normal, no harm done. When that happens while streaming to the PS3, the video completely freezes, sometimes for an eternity (30 seconds?) which is, like, so annoying.

Is there any way to stop that? Or maybe a better (and still free) way to stream videos from my Mac?

Thanks guys!

 

[manux]

Question time!!

I use Vuze to stream completely-legal-downloaded-no-really-it's-totally-legal videos from my Mac to the PS3. Fabulous, love it, dont have to plug my mac to the TV and all that.
Sometimes though the videos skip, some videos skip a whole lot - to the point of being unplayable - and some videos just a little. Now, i'm assuming this is because the video files aren't exactly 100% perfect, however if i just plug my Mac and play those videos i might get a funny destruction of the video for a second or less, see lots of squares on the screen and then back to normal, no harm done. When that happens while streaming to the PS3, the video completely freezes, sometimes for an eternity (30 seconds?) which is, like, so annoying. Like.

Is there any way to stop that? Or maybe a better (and still free) way to stream videos from my Mac?

Thanks guys!

I would try ps3mediaserver http://ps3mediaserver.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1635

 

[London Geezer]

I would try ps3mediaserver http://ps3mediaserver.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1635

Cool, will have a look later!

 

[London Geezer]

Oh wow thanks for that! I can browse all the folders on my Mac, and the videos have thumbnails!! Love it!

 

[-tkf-]

Oh wow thanks for that! I can browse all the folders on my Mac, and the videos have thumbnails!! Love it!

Yeah it´s nice. I have "sold" a few PS3´s with that little nifty program.

"I got a new TV and i would like a Blu-Ray player"

How about a PS3 and PS3 Media Server on your PC?

"What?"

Then you can watch Blu-Rays on your PS3 with no hassle and everything you have on your PC can be watched and listened to on the PS3 as well.

"How much is the PS3?"

And then they buy it

 

[London Geezer]

Yeah it´s nice. I have "sold" a few PS3´s with that little nifty program.

"I got a new TV and i would like a Blu-Ray player"

How about a PS3 and PS3 Media Server on your PC?

"What?"

Then you can watch Blu-Rays on your PS3 with no hassle and everything you have on your PC can be watched and listened to on the PS3 as well.

"How much is the PS3?"

And then they buy it

Only gripe (and it was the same with Vuze, so i'm guessing it's just how the PS3 plays the file) is that fast forwarding at higher speeds than 10x is kinda useless, showing one frame every few seconds - instead of the video playing really fast.... oh well the positives far outweigh the negatives!

 

[rabidrabbit]

Only gripe (and it was the same with Vuze, so i'm guessing it's just how the PS3 plays the file) is that fast forwarding at higher speeds than 10x is kinda useless, showing one frame every few seconds - instead of the video playing really fast.... oh well the positives far outweigh the negatives!

Do you know that pressing [ ] on the controller (or remote) you can bring upa a sort of chapter jump, where you can adjust the gap between "chapters" from if I recall correct 1 to 5 min.
Of course, that's not the same as FFWD.

 

[London Geezer]

Do you know that pressing [ ] on the controller (or remote) you can bring upa a sort of chapter jump, where you can adjust the gap between "chapters" from if I recall correct 1 to 5 min.
Of course, that's not the same as FFWD.

Yep, love that even though on some videos it doesn't work really well. Was kinda shocked the first time i saw that, in a "Wow Sony actually did some work this time!!" kind of way.

 

[-tkf-]

Only gripe (and it was the same with Vuze, so i'm guessing it's just how the PS3 plays the file) is that fast forwarding at higher speeds than 10x is kinda useless, showing one frame every few seconds - instead of the video playing really fast.... oh well the positives far outweigh the negatives!

use the "GoTo" function, instead of FF X 10 or 30, GoTo is quicker and less prone to freezes.

Of course you cant really see what is happening. Something worth having in mind, the FF function seems to rely alot of what the original format is. If i try to FF more than 1.5 speed on MSDVR files (windows media recordings) i get lots of trouble. If i convert them to Mpeg2 files it works alot better.

PS3 Media Server, it really does everything

 

[London Geezer]

use the "GoTo" function, instead of FF X 10 or 30, GoTo is quicker and less prone to freezes.

Of course you cant really see what is happening. Something worth having in mind, the FF function seems to rely alot of what the original format is. If i try to FF more than 1.5 speed on MSDVR files (windows media recordings) i get lots of trouble. If i convert them to Mpeg2 files it works alot better.

PS3 Media Server, it really does everything

Thanks again! How do i get to the 'GoTo' function? I'll use that when i actually know when i know where to GoTo

 

[rabidrabbit]

Thanks again! How do i get to the 'GoTo' function? I'll use that when i actually know when i know where to GoTo

Bring up the menu with triangle, there's an upwards-left curving arrow (or somewhere curving arrow anyway), that's the go-to function. You can change the time in the lower right corner of the picture with the d-pad.
I use that guite a lot, when the fast forwarding is broken in some HD files.

 

[London Geezer]

Bring up the menu with triangle, there's an upwards-left curving arrow (or somewhere curving arrow anyway), that's the go-to function. You can change the time in the lower right corner of the picture with the d-pad.
I use that guite a lot, when the fast forwarding is broken in some HD files.

Can i play MKV files with this PS3 media server thing?

 

[rabidrabbit]

Can i play MKV files with this PS3 media server thing?

I'm not sure if you can play them directly, I suppose it can convert on the fly if you have fast enough PC (I don't) and use wired LAN.
I always convert mkv to mpeg with mkv2vob software and copy them to PS3 HDD (I just like those video thumbnails).
It's quick (a HD episode of Lost usually takes just a couple of minutes on my aging PC) and reliable.

 

[manux]

Can i play MKV files with this PS3 media server thing?

yes you can. It remuxes mkv on the fly to appropriate container for use by ps3. Remuxing is light enough operation that even my single core based atom netbook can do it(tried it actually). If you need subtitles then you need transcoding and considerably faster server.

 

[London Geezer]

yes you can. It remuxes mkv on the fly to appropriate container for use by ps3. Remuxing is light enough operation that even my single core based atom netbook can do it(tried it actually). If you need subtitles then you need transcoding and considerably faster server.

Sweet!! Now i can watch Lost in HD!