LittlePenny
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I did find it amusing Vince mentioned beating out Tagrineth's mouth. Perhaps it is easy to forget some of the internet users are women? Bang ZOOM to the moon Alice!!!!
3dfx Rampage ;)
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hey vincey boy, i dont take kindly to you threatening to hurt a woman. i dont care if she kicked you in the balls, i dont even care is she's the head of nVidia PR! beat Bonehead up all you want, altho i will have to jump in on his behalf but dont EVER threaten a woman, especially a 3Dfx gal!
ok well anyways, as to what Bonehead316 said:
im not so sure the Rampage / Sage were quite what he says... (no gates? hehe, im just a lowly EE student and i know better than that
but i have done quite a bit of research into the fall of 3Dfx, and it appears to me that someone.... someone high up.... wanted 3Dfx to fall. And i cant believe i didnt think of it before- they were conspiring with nVidia! There certainly was a LOT of mismanagement inside 3Dfx, but there were other factors too. The Voodoo5 kicked the GeForce2's ass on the mac platform, but a certain someone at apple reallt hated another certain someone at 3Dfx, and so made an executive descision to use GF2s instead of V5s. had the V5 been used by apple, 3Dfx would have been saved.
you claim the Rampage was vapourware like BitBoys?
the day before 3Dfx signed the papers, the Rampage was ready for final testing and mass production. I know of someone who has one and im sure that there are a few more floating around...
[edit]:
oh yes, and lets not forget about Mojo just as revolutionary as Rampage
ok well anyways, as to what Bonehead316 said:
im not so sure the Rampage / Sage were quite what he says... (no gates? hehe, im just a lowly EE student and i know better than that
but i have done quite a bit of research into the fall of 3Dfx, and it appears to me that someone.... someone high up.... wanted 3Dfx to fall. And i cant believe i didnt think of it before- they were conspiring with nVidia! There certainly was a LOT of mismanagement inside 3Dfx, but there were other factors too. The Voodoo5 kicked the GeForce2's ass on the mac platform, but a certain someone at apple reallt hated another certain someone at 3Dfx, and so made an executive descision to use GF2s instead of V5s. had the V5 been used by apple, 3Dfx would have been saved.you claim the Rampage was vapourware like BitBoys?
the day before 3Dfx signed the papers, the Rampage was ready for final testing and mass production. I know of someone who has one
and im sure that there are a few more floating around...[edit]:
oh yes, and lets not forget about Mojo
just as revolutionary as Rampage Simon Templar
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Wow Sage, That reminded me of something.....
Awfully similiar in wording to this patent:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...&co1=AND&d=ft00&s1=Nvidia&OS=Nvidia&RS=Nvidia
Smarter pixels anyone?
Awfully similiar in wording to this patent:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...&co1=AND&d=ft00&s1=Nvidia&OS=Nvidia&RS=Nvidia
Smarter pixels anyone?
Sage said:you claim the Rampage was vapourware like BitBoys?
the day before 3Dfx signed the papers, the Rampage was ready for final testing and mass production. I know of someone who has one
Someone NEEDS to leak a lot of info if that's the truth.
Simon Templar
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Marco,
I understand that the patent relates to AA. And of course the information about mojo is old and possibly incorrrect (Actually that is what I am getting at).
Forget that it says binning I don't what to get into that whole IMR vs Defered debate, but more or less the idea of storing fragment coverages for each pixel.
Do you think it is possible that whoever wrote that article about mojo misinterpreted the fragment storage as binning instead of what it now appears to be AA? (AA for Free?)
Since patents are typically as vague as possible what kind of equivalent MSAA would this produce? Since it's dynamic are we talking 8x or higher? Anyone?
I understand that the patent relates to AA. And of course the information about mojo is old and possibly incorrrect (Actually that is what I am getting at).
Forget that it says binning I don't what to get into that whole IMR vs Defered debate, but more or less the idea of storing fragment coverages for each pixel.
Do you think it is possible that whoever wrote that article about mojo misinterpreted the fragment storage as binning instead of what it now appears to be AA? (AA for Free?)
Since patents are typically as vague as possible what kind of equivalent MSAA would this produce? Since it's dynamic are we talking 8x or higher? Anyone?
Sage said:
Wow, this is too funny to let go. "Kick me in the balls" "Head of nVidia PR" How old are we again?
(a) Whose a girl?
(b) How would I know?
(c) Who did I threaten?
(d) Like you'd stand a chance?
(e) Who even cares?
Shouldn't you be off trying to uncover the scrolls of advanced knowledge on Rampage left behind by the tragic and abrupt destruction of Atlantis?
PS. It's been "3dfx" since late '99 - not "3Dfx"
edit: Tag always uses the sig "that girl who knows womething about something" or something like that..... and being kicked in the balls by the head of nVidia PR is about the most devious situation i can come up with and would demand immediate and extreme retribution.... but you cant cause she's a girl and as for "3Dfx" vx "3dfx" i know i know, but i prefer "3Dfx" because that was the name of the good ol company i loved, things changed and so did the name maybe they should have just stayed in the arcade graphics buisiness <gasp>
thats it, i cant help myself... let me prepare something
okay here it is, but you didnt get this from me:
http://www.newgpu.com/3dfx/3dfximm2kdoc.ppt
and just for the hell of it:
http://www.newgpu.com/3dfx/glidexpsrc.rar
the site should be able to handle the bandwidth....
have fun 8)
.... oh and im taking it down at 10:00PM CST today
oh yeah, anyone good at graphics or coding wanting to help out on the site? i got all the costs covered, its just for fun.
and as for "3Dfx" vx "3dfx" i know i know, but i prefer "3Dfx" because that was the name of the good ol company i loved, things changed and so did the name maybe they should have just stayed in the arcade graphics buisiness <gasp>thats it, i cant help myself... let me prepare something
okay here it is, but you didnt get this from me:
http://www.newgpu.com/3dfx/3dfximm2kdoc.ppt
and just for the hell of it:
http://www.newgpu.com/3dfx/glidexpsrc.rar
the site should be able to handle the bandwidth....
have fun 8)
.... oh and im taking it down at 10:00PM CST today
oh yeah, anyone good at graphics or coding wanting to help out on the site? i got all the costs covered, its just for fun.
Merf... oi, Vince, glance at my sig for a split second if you want to know who's a girl. And my apologies about the throat-rip-threat-thingy, I just got kinda ticked because it seems like every time anything 3dfx-related comes up, you enter as fast as possible and do nothing but shoot everyone else down. :\
Interesting coincidence about Insider at x3dfx though, because he signed every post as 'Vince'. And would always do EXACTLY the same thing you do. And seems to know EXACTLY the same things you do. And uses EXACTLY the same sentence structure and general phrasing... catch my drift? Unless you have a twin of some sort... ;P
Ah well, so much for such and such, Bones basically listed everything there is to list about Rampage and SAGE, minus performance... and I'm not talking projected performance either. I wonder if Aquo would let us post some numbers...
And my apologies about the throat-rip-threat-thingy, I just got kinda ticked because it seems like every time anything 3dfx-related comes up, you enter as fast as possible and do nothing but shoot everyone else down. :\Interesting coincidence about Insider at x3dfx though, because he signed every post as 'Vince'. And would always do EXACTLY the same thing you do. And seems to know EXACTLY the same things you do. And uses EXACTLY the same sentence structure and general phrasing... catch my drift? Unless you have a twin of some sort... ;P
Ah well, so much for such and such, Bones basically listed everything there is to list about Rampage and SAGE, minus performance... and I'm not talking projected performance either.
I wonder if Aquo would let us post some numbers...
Sage said:
F*ckers! I was saving that.
Been sitting on that since April 2000.
Up to some point it's entertaining to read all the crap that's been stuffed up to now in this thread, but beyond that enough is enough.
People like DaveB, Wavey, JohnR, Vince and the likes had strong connections to the late 3dfx when it was alive and what some of them have claimed in this thread reflects the reality concerning Spectre the way I was/am aware of it.
I don't care what some of you former 3dfxU folks are supposed to hold, what supposed "insider" info you had/have or any other related nonsense. The next best thing I'm going to see claimed from there is that you are developing hardware all of the sudden, besides the supposed driver development. Oh please.....
People like DaveB, Wavey, JohnR, Vince and the likes had strong connections to the late 3dfx when it was alive and what some of them have claimed in this thread reflects the reality concerning Spectre the way I was/am aware of it.
I don't care what some of you former 3dfxU folks are supposed to hold, what supposed "insider" info you had/have or any other related nonsense. The next best thing I'm going to see claimed from there is that you are developing hardware all of the sudden, besides the supposed driver development. Oh please.....
Randell said:
Not a lot of people knew, but just after the announcement that they were selling, things went to pot for some reason - their developer site, which should normally be protected suddenly lost its password protect (now I think about it it may be on purpose) and was available for anyone to suck the docs off of, so it wouldn't surprise me if a number got out. However, while many of the Immersion 2000 peripheral docs were available on that site the main Rampage presentation wasn't - you had to get that directly off the Dev rel manager AFAIK.
Well, would have been years ago had they still been about - noone really knows since its now owned by NVIDIA though.
Not sure if anybody else saw this, but this makes no sense! I mean, come on...
Linear: ax + b
Quadratic: ax^2 + bx + c
Cubic: ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d
Bicubic uses a cubic interpolation, as opposed to the linear interpolation used by most filtering techniques.
How in the hell does this translate to simulating textures on a cube?
