3.6 million PSTwo AC adapters recalled/replaced.
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PC-Engine said:
Ouch. Well at least they're doing it for free.
What i find quite amazing is that the units concerned are the ones made from Aug to Dec 04, so they've produced (and probably sold, by now) almost 4 million units in about 4 months. That's a lot of units.
Another reason not to get something with an external power brick attached to it... 
I luv my PS2, I just plug it into the wall socket and presto it works.
I luv my PS2, I just plug it into the wall socket and presto it works.
If the same PSU were internal replacing them would be far worse than just getting a new brick. What surprises me is the dodgyness of power with consoles. We've this issue, and the XB's dodgy cables. Of all the things to QA the PSU side is surely the most important
Guden Oden said:Another reason not to get something with an external power brick attached to it...
But then if the PSU gets a bit too hot, ur PS2 is f**ked. Here you only have to change the PSU. Plus, you get a much smaller unit.
I'll take external bricks you can hide somewhere anytime over big units with internal PSUs.
Shifty Geezer said:If the same PSU were internal replacing them would be far worse than just getting a new brick. What surprises me is the dodgyness of power with consoles. We've this issue, and the XB's dodgy cables. Of all the things to QA the PSU side is surely the most important
I think the problem is that these things are manufactured in such high numbers that when something goes bad, it goes REALLY bad. I mean, 4 months worth or work equals 4 million units?! That's a lot.
Not many items are manufactured in such high numbers. There are the iPods, consoles, and i can't think of many other things that get manufactured in the high millions. TVs, there are thousands of different kinds, same for ovens or vacuum cleaners. See what i mean?
mckmas8808
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Well only 44 people in the WHOLE WORLD have reported it, so I don't see this as a big bummer. Actually nobody in Japan or the rest of Europe has even reported it at all.
yea yea there was a conspiracy behind the heating debate...my ps2 is still in tact..where as my xbox has lasted just 2 years but anyway man we all know what sony is capable of....92 million ps2s were sold against just meagre 22 million xbox as well as gamecube
this time sony is even aiming to take the 10 million base from MS and REV....they would be successful..we all know...but i just pray tht x360 and rev dont atleast quit the market....i have never seen sony is such an agressive mood as they are now in...with IBM behind their back they could also kill both amd and intel....and even the pc industry..if ps3 can run lindows/tigerOS i would for sure sell my pc....but the question is would i be able to find any customer then?
this time sony is even aiming to take the 10 million base from MS and REV....they would be successful..we all know...but i just pray tht x360 and rev dont atleast quit the market....i have never seen sony is such an agressive mood as they are now in...with IBM behind their back they could also kill both amd and intel....and even the pc industry..if ps3 can run lindows/tigerOS i would for sure sell my pc....but the question is would i be able to find any customer then?
Yes, and if a meteorite falls on our heads we all die. So what? My PS2 has been running for more or less thousands of hours already and it hasn't happened. In a couple more months I'll own a PS3 and I can retire the old unit. My bet is it'll last until then.london-boy said:
I don't care!
In fact I think PSTwo looks kind of stupid with the popup CD cover. I much prefer a tray that slides out. PS2 size isn't any kind of a deal for me, I have room for it, and not having a damn brick lying about collecting dust and looking ugly is a plus to me. Besides, external PSUs are often not of the switching type, but rather passive transformers that waste lots of power while idle. Not sure if that's true for PSTwo, but there's no easily accessible power switch to turn the thing off completely in any case.
mckmas8808 said:
The problem is not how many people reported it, the good thing is that Sony identified that there was a problem with what they manufactured between Aug and Dec, and even if no one had reported it, obviously Sony felt there could be a danger. It's much better for them to recall a few million PSUs than have an international scandal with headlines going "SONY DOESN'T CARE IF OUR HOUSES EXPLODE!"... Know what i mean? The damage to their image would be huge, whereas by doing this it puts them into a position of "being good and preventive".
Also, i think there are laws, whereby if a fault is identified, and that fault is potentially hazardous, for health and safety reasons the company is liable to recalling their product and exchange it. I'd imagine the fine or sanction for failing to comply would be much much much higher than the cost of a few million PSUs. :smile:
If there are such laws they're moderately recent. There's a case study for management students that looks at a Ford car (forget which one). It had a potentially fatal fault and they were faced with the choice of recalling and fixing them all, or keeping shtum and paying out if someone died as a consequence and sued them. They chose the latter as they determined it was cheaper.
Shifty Geezer said:
Mmm i'd think, if a hundred or more people died because of that fault during the years, that's a lot of money. Don't know, guess it all depends on the situation.
I was looking for the Xbox power cord thread, even found a link to it, but it is "dead" for some reasons and 404s. Probably got lost/destroyed in the forum transfer/forum reorganization.
Anyhow, between this and the Immersion troubles (rumble) I kind of feel bad for Sony. Not bad in the sense of I think they are wrongly being persecute, but in the sense I doubt they set out to make bad power plugs and the like. It stinks when you try to make a good product and some minor issue costs millions. Not an loophole to avoid accountability of course, but I doubt it is Sony's goals are to burn people's houses down.
The good news? Between MS's and Sony's issues I bet the next gen cords will be MUCH better!
Anyhow, between this and the Immersion troubles (rumble) I kind of feel bad for Sony. Not bad in the sense of I think they are wrongly being persecute, but in the sense I doubt they set out to make bad power plugs and the like. It stinks when you try to make a good product and some minor issue costs millions. Not an loophole to avoid accountability of course, but I doubt it is Sony's goals are to burn people's houses down.
The good news? Between MS's and Sony's issues I bet the next gen cords will be MUCH better!
Acert93 said:
... Are you sure about that?
It might be the beginning of their plans to take over the world! First burn our houses, then have billions of Cells connect and become the first true AI which will take over this sorry planet and feed on babies.
It wasn't actually the power cords that were broken in the xboxes, but the actual powersupply. From what I remember, the power socket was poorly soldered into the PCB, which caused sparking and stuff. I believe it could even come off completely, thus exposing terminals carrying live current straight off the city grid (fairly hazardous anyone would agree).Acert93 said:The good news? Between MS's and Sony's issues I bet the next gen cords will be MUCH better!
Guden Oden said:
Imagine the ads:
"XBOX... A TRULY SHOCKING EXPERIENCE!!"