2010 Marketshare Prediction Poll

How will the market be split by 2010

  • Sony 40% Microsoft 40% Nintendo 20%

    Votes: 17 11.0%
  • Sony 40% Microsoft 20% Nintendo 40%

    Votes: 12 7.8%
  • Sony 20% Microsoft 40% Nintendo 40%

    Votes: 6 3.9%
  • Sony 50% Microsoft 25% Nintendo 25%

    Votes: 51 33.1%
  • Sony 25% Microsoft 50% Nintendo 25%

    Votes: 8 5.2%
  • Sony 25% Microsoft 25% Nintendo 50%

    Votes: 7 4.5%
  • Sony 30% Microsoft 30% Nintendo 40%

    Votes: 14 9.1%
  • Sony 30% Microsoft 40% Nintendo 30%

    Votes: 8 5.2%
  • Sony 40% Microsoft 30% Nintendo 30%

    Votes: 20 13.0%
  • Sony 33% Microsoft 33% Nintendo 33%

    Votes: 11 7.1%

  • Total voters
    154

TheChefO

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Based on quite a few factors that are brewing this generation, I think we may be in for the closest market split since the days of snes/genesis.

PS3
Demand for the Playstation brand is huge with a 100million+ gamers onboard last gen. They could repeat that success but there are some factors which must be considered.
Price - The console is launching at a much higher pricepoint than has been accepted in the past and they have not announced a core version, so the likelihood of meeting the same pricepoints that both playstations launched with anytime soon is very slim.
Games - They don't have the familiar franchise games that have captivated gamers on ps2 available at launch. Historicly they have had the lions share of variety quality and quantity of games. If they can keep the same ps2 fire burning, they should continue to be the place to find variety.
Timeframe - They are coming to market 1 year after the xbox360 has been on the shelf for a year and is likely to have sold 10million units by the time PS3 hits the market. This is in stark contrast with ps2 which launched 1 year before Gamecube and Xbox last gen.
Extras - Bluray inclusion could either be a huge gain if they dominate the next gen media war or an ancor driving the base the cost up, ditto with the standard inclusion of hdd. Computer functionality could be a selling point if they can get the proper software support.


Wii
Coming hot off the questionable name announcement, Nintendo breezed through e3 with praise from all corners of the media. The anticipation based on their e3 showing is high.
Price - Not officially known but should come in between $250 and $200. This is in-line with their recent historical pricing for console launches and shouldn't be an issue.
Games - Nintendo has not announced the release dates of their fan favorite franchises but they look to have one of the best launch libraries in history. How the library will grow from that point is questionable but they seem to be gaining support and should at least see more variety/quantity than Gamecube did.
Timeframe - They are launching neck and neck with PS3 but one year after xbox360. This is roughly the same situation they found themselves in last gen by launching a year after the first next gen machine but also launching alongside the another.
Extras - They are including minimal additional features aside from the Wii controller which is the fundamental draw of this machine. The virtual console effort should prove useful for gamers interested in retro/classic gaming.


Xbox 360
Microsoft launched a year early and has since followed ps2's successull footsteps very closely. They have learned much from their fierce competitor and have put that knowledge to work in 360.
Price - A move which most questioned was having two sku's. One which went for the high-end market and the other which has accessories to match ps2 in functionality but with next gen games. By having the barebones system available and owning 100% of the design, they have cost control measures to ensure competitive pricing now and down the road.
Games - By securing availability of one of the most popular franchises last gen they have gone to great measures to level the playing field. Along with their other exclusive franchises both up-and-coming (Gears of War) and tried and true (Halo3), Microsoft looks poised to expand their library internally and through 3rd party.
Timeframe - As Sony proved last gen, "the early bird gets the worm". In Microsofts case, by launching a year ahead of their rivals they look poised to secure 10 million worms before either Sony or Nintendo hit the market. If ps2 is anything to go by this could prove huge for them.
Extras - Minimal extras are included but there are many available. Dvd playing out of the box is yet another ps2 feature they have taken note of and included standard.



Given the above pros/cons for each system when blended together in the same market will give us an interesting mix of gaming options.

My bet is on a 33% split equal across the board.
 
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I'm gonna say 40 ps3, 30% 360, and 30% wee.

Though Id like to change it to more like 45/35/15. I think PS3 and 360 will split fairly evenly, with PS3 getting the edge, but Wii won't do so hot.
 
scooby_dooby said:
I'm gonna say 40 ps3, 30% 360, and 30% wee.

Though Id like to change it to more like 45/35/15. I think PS3 and 360 will split fairly evenly, with PS3 getting the edge, but Wii won't do so hot.


You don't think they will do better than Gamecube last gen?
 
i don't want to hurt the feelings of any console manufacturer so i answered 33/33/33

i give the remaining 1% to gizmodo
 
TheChefO said:
You don't think they will do better than Gamecube last gen?

It all depends on the games, but I don't think Wii will be the major success people are forecasting. The GC at least had the benefit of being graphically competetive, so it still appealed to traditional gamers.

With Wii, N is counting on a huge influx of non-traditional gamers, I'm not sure that will happen.
 
scooby_dooby said:
It all depends on the games, but I don't think Wii will be the major success people are forecasting. The GC at least had the benefit of being graphically competetive, so it still appealed to traditional gamers.

With Wii, N is counting on a huge influx of non-traditional gamers, I'm not sure that will happen.


From what we've been hearing lately it looks as though Wii should be fairly competitive at least at 480p which would be what most people have. So while I agree that will hurt their "wow factor" for hdtv owners I still think it will be a very successful second console/kid console. If they were charging an arm and a leg I'd agree, but for the ~$200 I think it will do quite well.
 
.Melchiah. said:
I voted for;



Given the choice in the poll options, I'd increase Nintendo's figure and lower Microsoft's.


You'd like an option to put 50% Sony, 30% Nintendo and 20% Microsoft eh?

Based on what?
 
I've voted 40 Sony 20 MS 40 Nintendo.
My other choice should be sony 40% MS 25% nintendo 35%

Anyway a loss for Sony important one.
 
I say Sony 40%, MS 40%, Nintendo 20%

I'm not willing to make the jump and say the 360 will outsell the PS3 quite yet, but I do think it will be a neck and neck race to the end.

I think the Wii will sell very well to established Nintendo fans, but most other gamers will ignore the system.
 
TheChefO said:
You'd like an option to put 50% Sony, 30% Nintendo and 20% Microsoft eh?

Based on what?

Just a feeling I've got. Is that less realistic prediction compared to your choice (Sony 33% Microsoft 33% Nintendo 33%) ?
 
.Melchiah. said:
Just a feeling I've got. Is that less realistic prediction compared to your choice (Sony 33% Microsoft 33% Nintendo 33%) ?

Sure it's a realistic option just as 33% even split is. But I layed out my reasoning for why I think the market will pan out roughly even. Why do you feel the market will pan out to the split that you're suggesting?
 
Powderkeg said:
At the PS3 price point I would say it's highly unlikely.

I think it's definitely possible. Although the markets can't be compared apples to apples, but Sony's Bravia LCD TVs sell like hot cakes eventhough there are far cheaper models available.
 
TheChefO said:
Sure it's a realistic option just as 33% even split is. But I layed out my reasoning for why I think the market will pan out roughly even. Why do you feel the market will pan out to the split that you're suggesting?

I just list few things that come to my mind...


PS3
+Sony PlayStation is De facto name for gaming among the average folk.
+There are ~100 million PS2 users, of which the majority will probably buy PS3 eventually.
+The game serie legacy; the fans know their favorite games will continue on PS3.
+The brand's popularity in all three major areas, especially in Japan.
+The growing movement towards HDTVs among the average populace.
+Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, Tekken, Virtua Fighter, Gran Turismo, Ratchet & Clank, Jak & Daxter, Formula One.
+Fully working backwards compatibility, and plethora of PS1/PS2 games that are available for cheap price.
+EyeToy2
+Built-in Blu-Ray player.
+HDD.
+Free online play.

-Price.
-Still ~5 months for the release.
-No timed exclusivity for GTA series anymore.


Wii
+Price.
+The controller, eventhough I think it's a gimmick, will most probably lure many people to buy Wii.
+Nintendo's growing popularity in all three major areas, especially in Japan.
+Mario, Zelda, Metroid. (new NintenDogs or something similar and equally popular?)
+The back catalogue available for download.

-Could fail if there won't be enough AAA games using the controller properly.
-Still ~5 months for the release.
-3rd Party support? Will the major hits like GTA come to Wii?


Xbox2
+The growing movement towards HDTVs among the average populace.
+Popularity in USA.
+Halo, Forza.
+Live
+Been already available for 7-8 months.

-Not as popular in EU as in USA, even less so in Japan.
-Less diverse choice of games compared to competitors. No Japanese games for the Japanese, no popular (or already proven) J-RPG games, no popular platform games, seems like there's mostly FPS/PC/racing/sports games available out there.
-3rd party support in Japan?
-No built-in HD-DVD player.
-No standard HDD.
-No free online play.


I might have forgot something, or maybe made a mistake somewhere, so don't throw your rocks at me. ;)
 
Fo HW sales I would say more like 33% for PS3 30% for 360 and 40% for manly because of new players and because wii60 and PSwii should be very popular.
 
.Melchiah. said:
I think it's definitely possible. Although the markets can't be compared apples to apples, but Sony's Bravia LCD TVs sell like hot cakes eventhough there are far cheaper models available.

For every 1 of those sold 500 27" SDTV's are sold.

In fact there isn't a single market of consumer electronics where the most expensive option is also the best selling. Not one.
 
I wouldve liked to seen a higher number for Sony than 50%, considering their last two go arounds they were at around 60-70%.

Now would I be an anomaly thinking they could get higher than 50% with the PS3, maybe :)
 
TheChefO said:
From what we've been hearing lately it looks as though Wii should be fairly competitive at least at 480p which would be what most people have. So while I agree that will hurt their "wow factor" for hdtv owners I still think it will be a very successful second console/kid console. If they were charging an arm and a leg I'd agree, but for the ~$200 I think it will do quite well.

As a point of contention, I thought most people had 480i...
 
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