Sony PlayStation 5 Pro

[jlippo]

It seems like the latest versions of PSSR are quite good! But implementation seems to be a challenge. Some games require more changes than others to support it well

I wonder how much of this is just PSSR being more reactive TAA solution to whatever developers have used before.
We have seen problems mostly in games which have noisy input for TAA, perhaps PSSR was trained to handle changes as actual valid data, instead of smoothing over for several frames.

Basically crap in and crap out.

Certainly interesting problem to tackle.

 

[London Geezer]

Alan Wake got another patch, 40fps mode with RT finally!

 

[London Geezer]

And it looks and runs amazing! Finally I can finish this game.

 

[Karamazov]

And it looks and runs amazing! Finally I can finish this game.

You play so many games, you are more PS trophy than human now.

 

[Flappy Pannus]

And it looks and runs amazing! Finally I can finish this game.

Does the 40fps mode use PSSR or are you not sure?

 

[Blade Brown]

Does the 40fps mode use PSSR or are you not sure?

You can toggle but I doubt that you would want too overall. Here’s a clip from resetera someone took.

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PSSR is still not perfect in the game but that FSR artifacting on the gate is downright nasty. I’ll take the scaler that looks better in *motion* not the one where I’m standing still with no analog movement.

 

[London Geezer]

Does the 40fps mode use PSSR or are you not sure?

You can turn it off. I've left it on as I feel that it looks better. It doesn't do that thing that annoys me so much with TAA/FSR (or whatever it is), where you would move the camera and you can see the image change a little (pixely and lower res), then the picture quality settles a bit into a higher quality image when you stop moving the camera (it take a fraction of a second to do so). Hard to explain? I'm very sensitive to whatever you call that, for some reason.

 

[JPT]

I saw your question there and tried to search for some insight into it, but didn't find anything. Surely some teardown channel will have the information soon enough. If I see anything I will post it here for sure.

Why do they not list the wifi chip, https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/PS5+Pro+Chip+ID/178952
Or I think they didn't might have missed it.....

 

[Blade Brown]

I think this is something we all wanted reveal day In September lol.. 37minutes.

 

[Boss]

I think this is something we all wanted reveal day In September lol.. 37minutes.

Great video, just finished watching it. Mark Cerny is an S-tier communicator.

 

[Karamazov]

 

[Charlietus]

I think this is something we all wanted reveal day In September lol.. 37minutes.

Incredible video. Very honest and detailed, and as always Cerny has the voice of an angel

Also, I laughed when he said that the spectral part of PSSR is just branding. Lmao

 

[iroboto]

I think this is something we all wanted reveal day In September lol.. 37minutes.

nice insight there on what they did to address the custom hardware for ML. It's a good way to go about it without needing dedicated tensor silicon, certainly the cheapest way forward. It is likely going to be the foundational setup for consoles forward.

But I would be surprised to learn if this is not in RDNA4 as it is.

 

[snc]

Very interesting presentation. Surprise its not rdna3 + rdna4 rt but rather rdna2.x + rdna4 rt. Also ml customization is much bigger than anybody predicted.

 

[eloic]

Cerny has the voice of an angel

His voice creeps me out, NGL.

Nice presentation, though.

 

[Charlietus]

The important thing to gauge from this presentation is that they are aiming high for next gen.

Frame gen, denoising, path tracing, giving developers the option to use their ai algos, and more.

PS6 will be very different architecturally from a PS5.

 

[Flappy Pannus]

And as much as some want "real" frames and "real" pixels, Cerny is just confirming what was obvious and echoing Jensen - machine learning and RT, like it or not, are the future.

 

[Boss]

And as much as some want "real" frames and "real" pixels, Cerny is just confirming what was obvious and echoing Jensen - machine learning and RT, like it or not, are the future.

It's not so much the future and more the only avenue of continued progress due to manufacturing hurdles that we currently face. The manufacturing hurdles of today will eventually be surpassed leading of a new era of rapid advancement. Whether that will be in our lifetimes, no one knows.

 

[rntongo]

Looking at the bandwidth bottlenecks, expect next gen PS6 to have quite a lot more than 32GB of memory and more than 1TB/s of bandwidth if its not going to bottleneck acceleration for Raytracing and more so for AI/ML. Memory architecture seems to be the biggest bottleneck on the PS5 pro for ML acceleration for graphics workloads.

 

[Flappy Pannus]

It's not so much the future and more the only avenue of continued progress due to manufacturing hurdles that we currently face. The manufacturing hurdles of today will eventually be surpassed leading of a new era of rapid advancement. Whether that will be in our lifetimes, no one knows.

Yes, I will admit I'm thinking in terms of years and not decades out for some hypothetical manufacturing breakthrough. If we want to think in terms of that timescale, there are far more hurdles for humanity in general.