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Surprisingly high price point, with predictably "I was thinking about it but now I'm not" response. Between this and the "live service live service live service!" something or other is starting to go wrong at Sony.
I wonder how much does it cost to build an equivalent PC in terms of performance
As I said, the price will be at least 700$/€... let's wait, so 8-900$.
Here's the nextgen Xbox for €1000!
Surprisingly high price point, with predictably "I was thinking about it but now I'm not" response. Between this and the "live service live service live service!" something or other is starting to go wrong at Sony.
Will they refund everyone's money if it flops?Maybe it’s priced high to make up for Concord?
Why is it no longer true today? Games being F2P doesn't change anything, cuz the platform owners still take the same cut for ALL that MTX revenue. If revenue in gaming goes up, Playstation automatically benefits. They aren't left out at all.There may be truth here in his statements. Prior to PS4 times, consoles were sold at a loss because they could make it up in game purchases and subscriptions.
That is no longer true today. The most played games are F2P. And they don’t require a subscription. You just need a console and a monitor and you’re in. If you sell your console at a loss, you just eat losses and that’s not a great place to be. Sony already has some of the lowest margins out there despite being the leader by a country mile.
They simply may not be able to afford any sort of loss on their console.
I think we can safely say Sony's narrow GPU-spiel from the beginning of the Gen was a statement meant to muddle the conversation.
PS5pro is even more "unbalanced" and "wide" than Xbox Series X and yet... here we are.
Didn’t MS claim as well that XBox would be more powerful and have more chips and rays and tracing and whatnot? So it is possible that other people believed it as well. As MS is a real company and they would never lie because their investors would sue them.Wrong. Bandwidth throughout the entire gpu has been doubled and they are leveraging PSSR, which will require relatively less gpu bandwidth. You made the mistake of claiming Xbox Series X would always perform better than PS5 at ray tracing prior to the console releases. Here we go again with you and your falsehoods.
For one game? Worthless....
I am afraid DF is going to need to buy 8K tv and 8K capture devices to test Sony claims.
8K mode should run at 60fps too. Likely native 4K (without RT) PSSRed to 8K. It's just different 60fps modes.Cerny was saying that players shouldn’t choose between framerate and quality anymore but it looks like GT7 now has gameplay raytracing OR an 8K mode..
Wrong. Bandwidth throughout the entire gpu has been doubled and they are leveraging PSSR, which will require relatively less gpu bandwidth. You made the mistake of claiming Xbox Series X would always perform better than PS5 at ray tracing prior to the console releases. Here we go again with you and your falsehoods.
Upgraded GPU: With PS5 Pro, we are upgrading to a GPU that has 67% more Compute Units than the current PS5 console and 28% faster memory.
Am I blind or is 28% not even close to double. Sony would never mislead though as a public corporation. Or layoff developers while recording record profits.
yeah, will sell ps5 and buy it but with this cpu price is definitely too highAny of you going to buy the PS5 Pro?
There's not enough MTX revenue for that. Consoles used to be subsidized with the idea that players would buy 5-6 titles per generation. A single owner to be spending $500 dollars worth of MTX per generation? That's a high amount per player. There's just no way MTX is that profitable, or Sony would be rolling hard in cash. If that was the average MTX spend, Sony would be up 25 Billion per year in revenue not counting anything else.Why is it no longer true today? Games being F2P doesn't change anything, cuz the platform owners still take the same cut for ALL that MTX revenue. If revenue in gaming goes up, Playstation automatically benefits. They aren't left out at all.
What do you mean by this? People vote with their wallets, Sony can't force you to buy a pro. Tough for Sony that they don't get your business if it's out of your price bracket.It's insane how much gamers are willing to excuse these companies for their clearly terrible and greedy management. And people making these excuses are exactly why the 'free market' has broken down. No longer are consumers holding these companies accountable.