3D Gaming*

[upnorthsox]

Samsung 40" 3D LED - $1600

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung...HDTV/9783551.p?id=1218173773356&skuId=9783551

Samsung 55" 3D LED - $2500

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung...HDTV/9783533.p?id=1218173780094&skuId=9783533

Samsung 58" 3D Plasma - $2600

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung...HDTV/9808879.p?id=1218177169655&skuId=9808879

LG 55" 3D LED - $2300

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/LG+-+55...HDTV/9791696.p?id=1218175547825&skuId=9791696

Samsung 50" 3d Plasma 720P - $990

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung...HDTV/1201341.p?id=1218232913525&skuId=1201341

There's currently alot of excess HDTV inventory which wil lead to alot of sales/deals this fall, this may or may not effect 3D sales at first so the disparity between sale prices of 3D and non-3D may widen.

 

[patsu]

Here is the 65 inch samsung

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung...HDTV/9974664.p?id=1218204530652&skuId=9974664

and the 3d

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung...HDTV/9915978.p?id=1218194635376&skuId=9915978

$2,000 price diffrence.

You can always find an old model HDTV to compare with a new model 3DTV/HDTV. In this case, you're comparing a series 6 with a series 8 (2 gens apart). When they phase out old models, you won't see this gap anymore. All mid- and high-end TVs will be 3D if everything goes according to the manufacturers' plans.

The deal I saw was for 50+" 3DTV. It's the same price or $100 more expensive than the HDTV. That's a pretty amazing deal. Some of them also have free 3D glasses and bundled movies.

 

[patsu]

NTT DoCoMo's touchable 3D display prototype:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/06/ntt-docomos-touchable-3d-display-prototype-seamlessly-integrate/

The crown jewel of the setup is a small glasses-free 3D display -- obviously intended to mimic the size and style of display you'd see on a phone -- with stereoscopic cameras just above it to detect the presence and position of an attached stylus. As you move the stylus toward a point on the display, the cute little beast lashes its tongue out in the direction of the tip, and a surprisingly strong haptic kick is generated inside the stylus through an inductive coil to mimic the effect of the tongue hitting you. It's pretty obvious that something like this would have neat implications for mobile gaming...

Video below the article.

 

[patsu]

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/12/darkworks-shows-off-trioviz-for-games-2d-to-3d-sdk-we-get-a-goo/

Darkworks introduced its TriOviz for Games SDK yesterday during GDC, and while TriOviz technology has been around for years in Hollywood, it wasn't until today that this same technology debuted for console and PC titles. Essentially, this software wrapper enables standard 2D video games to be viewed in 3D on a traditional 2D display

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We dug in with a few questions, and we were told that this technology could be applied to actual 3D HDTVs (requiring 120Hz or more) with just a small software tweak, and existing titles could be "upgraded" to 3D by giving users a simple update via DLC portals. We also found that the 3D effect could be toggled on and off in the settings menu of games, and while Darkworks wasn't able to spill details on upcoming titles that would support this stuff, we definitely got the idea that more than a few announcements were imminent.

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[eastmen]

You can always find an old model HDTV to compare with a new model 3DTV/HDTV. In this case, you're comparing a series 6 with a series 8 (2 gens apart). When they phase out old models, you won't see this gap anymore. All mid- and high-end TVs will be 3D if everything goes according to the manufacturers' plans.

The deal I saw was for 50+" 3DTV. It's the same price or $100 more expensive than the HDTV. That's a pretty amazing deal. Some of them also have free 3D glasses and bundled movies.

There is no series 8 2d tv. All series 8 tvs are 3d capable so there is no way to do what your saying

 

[patsu]

Yes, that's what I meant. New mid and high end TV will be all 3DTV. There won't be so-called price premium once the old models sold out -- unless you're comparing with low end TVs. It's the same gap between high-end HDTV and low-end HDTV today. I think Samsung is at Series 9 already, so Series 7 and 8 (3DTVs) will drop price too.

 

[eastmen]

Yes, that's what I meant. New mid and high end TV will be all 3DTV. There won't be so-called premium once the old models sold out -- unless you're comparing with low end TVs. It's the same gap between high-end HDTV and low-end HDTV today.

but right now I'm able to compare and both models offer similar features and image quality.

Also they wil lcontinue to release non 3d models just like they will continue with non led models. There are price points they want to hit for more volume.

 

[patsu]

Those are the same low-end vs high-end HDTV comparisons, with or without stereoscopic 3D tech. i.e., if you're looking for high end HDTV years ago, you can find some that are much more expensive than old models also. As time progresses, old 3DTVs will drop in price too. Should be able to find good deals there.

e.g., You can get 55" Series 7 3DTV for $2500 on Amazon instead of getting Series 8 (same size) @ $6000. The 55" Series 6 HDTV (without 3D) costs $2200. The $6000 is the top end model, which is misleading to use in your comparison. The $2500 Series 7 3DTV is already better than the old Series 6 @ $2200.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Also they wil lcontinue to release non 3d models just like they will continue with non led models. There are price points they want to hit for more volume.

However, adding 3D involves negligable cost for any 120Hz screen. In fact reusing the same components across models will increase bulk savings. Chances are in a year or three (I reckon nearer the year mark), every TV will be 3d enabled whever you want it to be or not because there are no savings to be made from excluding it. Just as there are no savings to be passed on with SDTV LCDs such that you can't buy a TV now without it being HD. This be when 3D starts to grow. People buying new TVs just to have a new TV will find they happen to have a 3D TV and decide they'll get some glasses just to see what it's all about.

 

[patsu]

Together with premium content, advertising is also going 3D:
http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wc...0114036498&surfModel=Content10052010114036498

Speaking last week at the seventh annual Advertising Week in New York, the company’s technology head cited research from major universities and corporations throughout the world that indicate consumers retain information they glean from 3D cinema and television advertising at a much higher rate than from standard two-dimensional counterparts.

“Coupled with the reduced cost and new ease of 3D production thanks to Panasonic’s professional 3D camcorder and editing equipment and the availability of class-leading 3D stock footage, companies that create commercials in 3D will experience a dramatic surge in product awareness, interest and buy-in,” said Mr. Tsuyuzaki.

Mr. Tsuyuzaki cited as an example one such study that puts retention of a 3D commercial spot at up to eight times that of a standard commercial message. For print media, he noted that studies show that consumers spend up to 2.5 times as long perusing an ad in 3D versus a 2D version.

All of these key 3D topics and others affecting advertising production and placement will be discussed at famed media analyst Paul Kagan’s conference on 3D Media Markets, to be held Oct. 27th at New York’s Waldorf Astoria Hotel. The conference, sponsored by Panasonic to help broaden understanding of the fast-growing 3D medium, features such industry luminaries as Avatar producer Jon Landau and DreamWorks co-founder Jeffrey Katzenberg. For more information on the conference, visit www.pkworldmedia.com.

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[specwarGP2]

There is no series 8 2d tv. All series 8 tvs are 3d capable so there is no way to do what your saying

The 8 is expensive because it has local dimming. It was the same thing last year when there was no 3D.

 

[draconian]

Toshiba 's glasses free tv was mentioned above.

Here is the video discussing it. Apparently, it uses cell broadband engine.

 

[MfA]

Did you notice all the nice mix images and moire while the camera panned? The approach is simply stupid. It's essentially the same as what Philips decided to shitcan, with a little more horizontal resolution. The only way glassless 3D can work in a useful sense is with viewer detection and beamed viewing zones (in theory this setup could actually do it for a single viewer, although it would need a different lenticular lens ... and it wouldn't work for more viewers).

 

[patsu]

If you like tech tracking...
http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1447613

Media tablets, private cloud computing, and 3D flat-panel TVs and displays are some of the technologies that have moved into the Peak of Inflated Expectations, according to the 2010 Emerging Technologies Hype Cycle by Gartner, Inc.

Gartner has examined the maturity of 1,800 technologies and trends in 75 technology, topic, and industry areas. Each of the 75 individual Hype Cycle reports provides a snapshot of a key area of IT or business. Senior executives, CIOs, strategists, business developers and technology planners should consider these technologies when developing emerging business and technology portfolios. The "Hype Cycle for Emerging Technologies" is the longest-running annual Hype Cycle, providing a cross-industry perspective on the technologies and trends that IT managers should consider in developing emerging-technology portfolios (see Figure 1).

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You'll find other familiar technologies in the chart. ^_^

 

[NeoTechni]

I put up with a dying HDTV for about a year in the hopes that 3DTVs would come out. They finally did and cost 6 times more than a regular HDTV here. Sign. I caved and just got a regular one.

Now I'll be buying a 3DS because of the 3D LCD alone. First Nintendo system I'll ever preorder

 

[patsu]

http://kotaku.com/5664495/the-3ds-has-a-3d-market-all-to-itself

There's a reason people are excited about the Nintendo 3DS, and are not excited about 3D on a TV set: because nobody wants to wear those stupid glasses. And it's going to stay that way for some time.

"The first challenge (for 3D TVs) is the inconvenience of wearing glasses," Samsung's Visual Display President B.K. Yoon told the Wall Street Journal.

"I believe that this will be possible on cell phones and other mobile devices, or monitors that require smaller displays...but supplying 3D TV without glasses will not be (available) in the next five to ten years."

I used to think that way, but I am not so sure after seeing a good 3DTV like the Pana Plasma.

The key thing is once a person get used to 3D on a 3DS. He (or at least I) could tell the differences between a 2D and 3D presentation even if the latter is not available. That (persistant) "something is missing" feeling may help drive glasses 3DTV sales eventually, especially if the 3D tech and content continue to improve. I don't have the same "something is missing" feeling for HDTV vs upscaled SDTV.

I have that feeling while playing Sports Champions with Move too. On a flat 2D screen, it's harder to judge depth/distance at high speed.

Original Source: http://www.smartmoney.com/news/ON/?story=ON-20101013-000539&#;ixzz12OoDwko8

 

[upnorthsox]

Not to go OT but it looks like COD:BO is going to be 3D compatable on both console versions. Now if they can just patch in Move support I might be interested in it.

 

[ShadowRunner]

Hopefully its not a choice of 3D at 30fps or 2D at 60fps, but i think it will be...

 

[patsu]

This was announced earlier. Now they nailed down the programming...

3D Joint Venture of Sony, Discovery Communications and IMAX Announces First Wave of Programming:
http://corporate.discovery.com/disc...-of-sony-discovery-programming/#mkcpgn=twdci1

The announcements represent an initial list of native 3D programs that will be featured on the first 24/7, fully programmed 3D television network in the U.S. when the channel launches in 2011.

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The series and films announced today are (in alphabetical order):

Original Series

Abandoned Planet
Explore the strangest places on earth - entire cities now completely devoid of all humanity. This series of one-hour programs sheds light on why people have abandoned the places they once called home and what happens after they leave. Produced by Flight 33 Productions.

Africa in 3D
From Gannet Island and its 100,000 seabirds of the same name sharing one giant rock, the 60,000 flamingos at Kamfers Dam, the Luangwa River and its 30,000 hippos and much more, this series of one-hour programs captures the richness and diversity of the world's second-largest continent. Produced by Aquavision Television Productions.

China
China's beauty is little seen, often hidden and always surprising. This hour-long series studies the thronging cities, epic vistas and spiritual heartlands of this huge and mysterious nation in
stunning 3D. Produced by Natural History New Zealand Ltd. (NHNZ).

Jewels of the World
This hour-long series gives viewers unprecedented access to UNESCO's ‘World Heritage' sites, where the planet's natural and cultural gems are catalogued and protected, including: the historic sanctuary of Machu Picchu, Peru; the Temple of Angkor Wat in Cambodia; and the Grand Canyon National Park in the United States, among others. Produced by Natural History New Zealand Ltd. (NHNZ).

Exclusive U.S. Premieres

Attack of the Giant Jellyfish (Discovery)
This hour-long program explores the myths and realities behind the global explosion of deadly jellyfish, including the giant Nomura, whose strength and size makes them capable of capsizing boats and wreaking havoc on the high seas. Produced by Story House Productions.

The Haunted (Discovery)
Using infrared cameras and sensitive recording devices, a paranormal team investigates true, chilling and terrifying stories of animals and their owners who are experiencing the unexplainable. This one-hour program is produced by Picture Shack Entertainment.

Into the Deep 3D (IMAX)
This IMAX special takes audiences on a spectacular three-dimensional exploration of the undersea world. Using the IMAX 3D camera in its underwater housing for the first time, this film captures unique marine life and magnificent underwater vistas.

Magnificent Desolation: Walking on the Moon 3D (IMAX)
Through the magic of IMAX 3D, narrator Tom Hanks takes viewers to the lunar surface to walk alongside the 12 extraordinary astronauts who have been there to experience what they saw, heard, felt, thought and did.

Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs (Sony)
Inspired by the beloved children's book of the same name, this animated 3D feature follows inventor Flint Lockwood and a brainy weathergirl as they attempt to discover why the rain in their small town has stopped, and food is falling in its place.

Monster House (Sony)
A suburban home has become physically animated by a vengeful human soul looking to stir up trouble from beyond the grave, and it's up to three adventurous kids from the neighborhood to do battle with the structural golem in this comically frightful tale.

 

[patsu]

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/3d-glasses-not-an-impediment-to-3d-gaming-adoption-finds-study/

Last week, we reported on a study from Interpret, which found that nearly half of consumers didn't want to wear 3D glasses, and that along with general misinformation about the technology were two of the biggest impediments to adoption. Well, now there's a new report from the U-Decide Initiative, which seems to provide contradictory information.
The study found that 80% of gamers are actually willing to wear glasses to play video games and watch 3D Blu-ray movies. While interest in 3D climbs without the glasses, the difference isn't as big as some have made it seem. When glasses are no longer necessary, the participation level climbs just 12%.

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There is a chart that shows 3D glasses impact traditional broadcasting negatively the most, but less so for gaming.