3D Gaming*

And this week is 3D Summit (in SF ?):

Magic numbers being thrown around here (I don't quite trust them):
http://www.homemediamagazine.com/3-d/3d-summit-speakers-talk-up-blu-ray-20613

San Francisco Chronicles has a few brief writeups about the event:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail?entry_id=72452
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail?entry_id=72436
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail?entry_id=72362
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail?entry_id=72407

He says that Sony's working with "the playstation people" on a kind of 3D application, though he did not give a specific release date.
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:LOL:
 
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i677c428c4dc16c2c7592835d50e86a3a

Big news on the 3D front.

Sources indicate that George Lucas is set on rereleasing the "Star Wars" franchise in new 3D conversions beginning in 2012. Although 3D versions have been rumored for some time, Lucas purportedly was waiting until there were enough screens available to make the release a sizable event.

Fox, which released all six original "Star Wars" films, also would release the 3D versions.

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They also need to work out a Move-version of the Star Wars game. Many fans await the lightsaber duel against Darth Vader, Maul, Count Dooku, General Grievous and the Emperor.
 
Lightsabre dualing on Move would be the killer app. I don't think Kinect will have the accuracy to pull off 1:1 style which the massive SW audience would want. Make the SW Move game 3D, and I think it'd drive up 3D sales as well as any movie. More so even, because, let's be honest, the 3Dification of SW is going to be a cheap hack of 2D and depth. The could render the CG stuff in proper 3D, but all the film work will be limited and not add anything to the movie. Are the SW nuts really that nutty that they'd invest in 3D and buy the films again for a construed 3D effect?

Whereas offer them lightsabre dualing in 3D, so they're in the SW universe - I can see that going down a storm.
 
HDMI 1.4 -> 1.3 3D converter for 720p front projectors:
http://www.avrev.com/home-theater-n...oma-solves-the-720p-3d-projector-problem.html

You may have noticed a bit of an issue with the whole 3D movement. It's all about 1080p resolutions, leaving 720p projector users in the lurch. Luckily, Optoma is around to take care of that issue for you.

Using their new 3D-XL converter box, you'll be able to watch 3D Blu-rays on your 720p projector with no problem at all. The box takes the HDMI 1.4 signal from your Blu-ray player and converts it to a 720p HDMI 1.3 signal.
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Yes, yes. I hope Sports Champions supports 3D too. I am not the only one who sometimes misjudge the position of the ball near the net.

I think the Gladiator fight can benefit from the depth perception also.
 
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/01/skys-3d-tv-channel-launches-in-the-uk/

if you're in the UK, that is -- you can now finally check out Sky's brand new 3D TV channel for yourself. That's the first such channel in the UK, and it will be broadcasting a range of programming from movies to football (also known as "soccer" to some) for 14 hours a day -- it kicks things off today with the Ryder Cup. To get the channel, however, you'll have to sign up for the top-end Sky World HD package, which will run you £61, or about $96 a month.
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Missed this piece of news from the 3D Summit in late September:
http://hdguru.com/3d-tv-bombshell-future-tech-revealed-at-3d-summit/2419/#more-2419

During the “The Future Drivers in the 3D Ecosystem” panel Greer announced that ReadD technology licensees will be able to offer the first “Full HD” passive 3D HDTVs in 2011, allowing the use of inexpensive, lightweight glasses (like the one you’re provided when visiting a 3D movie theater).

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Eyeglass maker Luxottica will offer its Oakley brand of 3D compatible passive glasses in uncorrected or with prescriptions later this year.

To date, the only passive large screen flat panels available in the US are expensive (>$6000) 46″ commercial monitors from JVC and Hyundai and these systems are only capable of one-half HD resolution at 1920 x 540 (versus 1920 x1080 for Full HD)

In other remarks Greer said he expects that active shutter 3D TVs will continue to be sold alongside the new 3D “passive glasses” sets for the next 4-5 years.

Passive “Full HD” using the RealD technology transfers the bulk of the cost of the 3D feature from the active glasses to the TV. No word yet on the cost premium for these new TVs or which of the RealD licensed TV makers (Sony, JVC, Samsung, Toshiba and Panasonic) will be the first to offer this new class of 3D flat panel HDTVs.

We expect the US introduction at the 2011 International Consumer Electronics Show in Jan. with availability next spring.
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Glasses-Less 3DTVs From Toshiba Will Be Available in Japan by December:
http://gizmodo.com/5654805/glasses+less-3dtvs-from-toshiba-will-be-available-in-japan-by-december

After we heard Toshiba would be showcasing glasses-less 3DTVs before the year's end, we started looking forward to the beginning of the end for cumbersome glasses. Japan's got 'em first, but at $2,900 for a 20-incher I don't mind.

Pictured above is the 20-inch 20GL1, which appears to have a bottom-heavy bezel area and fairly large stand. It's an LED-backlit panel with 1,280 x 720 resolution, and has HDMI ports alongside a USB, and can handle LAN and Tosh's Regza Link for single-remote usage. Inside, Toshiba's cell processor is ticking away

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May want to wait for more official confirmation.
 
Silly design. It's 20", no bigger than a monitor, but it comes in an enormous stand. Still, looking at the tech:
We'd previously heard that Toshiba was using multi-parallax technology to make the 3D work without glasses. It works similarly to Sharp's parallax barrier tech, only doesn't have a "sweet spot" because it has nine different perspectives for each 2D frame
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If you have the widest left and right fields, it should be possible to interpolate convincing subfields. I can see where a SPURSEngine would come in handy for their 9-field multiparallax barrier. However, what actual resolution will the viewer get? Surely not 1280x720, as that'd be a pixel resolution of 11520x720!!
 
I am hoping the new Google TV is 3D ready but no one seems to mention it. Sony's Google TV comes in at 32", 40" and 46". The smallest size meets my needs. I have a feeling Sony missed it again. :devilish:

Then again, I don't need all the bells and whistles of Google TV if I only want to get a 30" 3D monitor.
 
http://gamasutra.com/view/news/3079..._Misinformation_Biggest_Challenges_For_3D.php

Aiming to get a clearer view of the 3D audience, research firm Interpret conducted a detailed online survey, polling 1500 consumers ages 12-65 to find out how much they knew about 3D technology, what they liked and disliked about it, and whether they planned to buy a 3D-able television. Interpret's Michael Cai presented his findings at the Game Developers Conference Online in Austin.

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The study found 13 percent of people who are in the market to purchase a new high-definition television in the next year said they "definitely will buy" a 3D-ready television, while 10 percent "definitely will not buy." Among those hoping to bring 3D into their homes, the most popular reason was the attempt to create a movie theater experience in their living room.

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In terms of major obstacles to 3D, Cai said the glasses issue came up time and time again-- both the physical discomfort of wearing them and the expense, said Cai. 46 percent of people who said they didn't want a 3D television said that having to wear glasses was the main reason they resisted the tech. But the biggest barrier for 3D seems to be price, with 69 percent claiming that the televisions, which cost thousands of dollars, are cost-prohibitive.

Nevertheless, the most interesting takeaway from Interpret's research appears to be that consumer education is set to be the biggest challenge to 3D adoption -- even among game console owners, generally a tech-savvy audience. 63 percent of console owners think that all they need is a firmware update to enable 3D in their homes, the research found. 83 percent of consumers think that all 3D requires glasses, despite increasing awareness of Nintendo's 3DS and the growth of similar glasses-free 3D tech.

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Well of course it's the glasses, but more specifically it the price of the glasses. As long as they're off by a factor of 10x on price you'll never get a true measure of people acceptance. At $10-15 though people would be much more receptive.
 
upnorthsox said:
Well of course it's the glasses, but more specifically it the price of the glasses. As long as they're off by a factor of 10x on price you'll never get a true measure of people acceptance. At $10-15 though people would be much more receptive.
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heh my parents are getting a new tv , 2,500 for the samsung led 60inch.5000 for the 3d verison with no glasses. Which do you think they are going to buy.

They just got a 40 inch samsun for the kitchen and it was $1,100 the 3d verison was 1,800 of the same tv. You don't even need to introduce the glasses into the price equation
 
eastmen said:
heh my parents are getting a new tv , 2,500 for the samsung led 60inch.5000 for the 3d verison with no glasses. Which do you think they are going to buy.
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Is the price gap that wide ? Samsung should have 55" 3DTV at $3300 MSRP (Series 7000).

The $6000 (MSRP) 3DTV should be Samsung Series 9000, also 55".

You should be able to get a better price in retail. I know a couple of months ago, BestBuy had a promo for 3DTV at almost the same price as equivalent HDTV models. The price difference was $100 - 200.

EDIT: http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs...on+3D_Sony+3D+TV_3D+TV+Sony&K_CLICKID=kw37778

65" Series 8000 3DTV is also $6000 MSRP.
 
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung...HDTV/9904845.p?id=1218192431477&skuId=9904845

Samsung un60c6300 is $2,500

THey don't have the 3d one up must be sold out but it was $4,000

Here is the 65 inch samsung

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung...HDTV/9974664.p?id=1218204530652&skuId=9974664

and the 3d

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung...HDTV/9915978.p?id=1218194635376&skuId=9915978

$2,000 price diffrence.

Samsung 3d glasses

$200
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung...DTVs/9828746.p?id=1218179700628&skuId=9828746

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+3D+Starter+Kit/1283207.p?id=1218246664614&skuId=1283207

you can get the samsung starter kit for $400. So a family of 4 (such as we are ) your going to spend $800 bucks on 3d glasses. Price diffrence at 65 inches is $2800 and thats not including needing to buy a 3d bluray player

For $2800 we can buy another 55inch tv and a 40inch tv for other rooms. It makes it quite easy to see where our choice would be.
 
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