It has to be said, looking at the results from FXAAv2 and FXAAv3, and assuming the performance figures we've seen are representative of those you'd get in a real game, it's beginning to look like a no-brainer to use it in any new development projects. I'd be very disappointed to see any of the AAA titles due out at the end of year with weak or no AA.
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It has to be said, looking at the results from FXAAv2 and FXAAv3, and assuming the performance figures we've seen are representative of those you'd get in a real game, it's beginning to look like a no-brainer to use it in any new development projects. I'd be very disappointed to see any of the AAA titles due out at the end of year with weak or no AA.
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woops! yeah i just now saw that. alright, nothing new then.
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Thanks for clarifying. :smile:
As I understand it for a game to run at a locked 30fps it has to run almost always above that..so a 0.5fps loss is even more less significant isn't it?
FXAA sounds like a good and cheap solution that will definitely make any game that has no AA at all look even better and theoritically with such a small penalty there will be small or maybe even no loss at all for the refresh-rate.
It would've been cool to see games like Gears 3, Batman: AC and Uncharted 3 for example having a smoother IQ with FXAA this fall but I wouldn't bet on it.
AFAIK, they haven't mentioned a thing about it. It's just people on forums saying what they want or "believe" or jumping to conclusions from the tweet from the Sony dev. Judging by the screenshots, I'm sticking with my findings from E3 - edge post-process or "analytical AA". One isn't really going to be able to tell which post-process the dev is using unless they mention it specifically. There are just too many variations to really pinpoint anything.
Edge detection is really going to be hit or miss depending on the colour palette of the game anyway, especially for the cheaper ED methods that don't use depth information. That would explain why some maps look better filtered than others from what I've seen.
Really interesting... I only hope the bad implementation will be improved in some area before the release.
Resistance 3 appears to be 960x704. There are spots that exhibit 2xAA (& quincunx blur pattern), but it's rather broken, most likely because they're using a deferred renderer. R2 used a variant of light pre-pass along with quincunx IIRC.
2xAA can be seen near the center-top of the boat's windows as well as the top edge of the ammo box). http://www.abload.de/img/20110614164042bsl0.png
Some of the edges have quite a bit of blurring... especially around the view weapon. *shrug*
And no, it doesn't seem to be the 2xMSAA remapping trick either.
2xAA can be seen near the center-top of the boat's windows as well as the top edge of the ammo box). http://www.abload.de/img/20110614164042bsl0.png
Some of the edges have quite a bit of blurring... especially around the view weapon. *shrug*
And no, it doesn't seem to be the 2xMSAA remapping trick either.
There's quite a bit changed with the LOD and shadow res is lower. There does seem to be some bloom artefacting.
It's basically 49% of the pixels, so it's just under 640x720 in terms of raw pixels. I would guess they kept the aspect ratio for scaling purposes - it's much more balanced than double-pixel wide steps.
I wonder if they might be able to re-use some of the results from the edge filtering they employ across both eye-views.
It's basically 49% of the pixels, so it's just under 640x720 in terms of raw pixels. I would guess they kept the aspect ratio for scaling purposes - it's much more balanced than double-pixel wide steps.
I wonder if they might be able to re-use some of the results from the edge filtering they employ across both eye-views.
i tried out sonic generations demo and looks like dropping it down to 30hz allowed them to do some really nice stuff, like global illumination and hdr bloom. tho there seems to be noticeable input latency which is really bad for a game like this. 2xmsaa
edit: ps3 version
edit: ps3 version
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Devs have access to the actual multisamples on RSX, so they can remap the samples as a pixel and write it out to a larger framebuffer than was rendered. It can either be used to properly shade the multisamples ala Killzone 2 or it can be used to fake a higher resolution than was rendered.
New Screens of Dark Souls. Can someone analyse them please?
http://www.andriasang.com/e/galleries/2011/07/11/dark_souls_screens/2132454216/
http://www.andriasang.com/e/galleries/2011/07/11/dark_souls_screens/2132454213/
http://www.andriasang.com/e/galleries/2011/07/11/dark_souls_screens/2132454216/
http://www.andriasang.com/e/galleries/2011/07/11/dark_souls_screens/2132454213/
The guys over at GameBlurb have done a screenshot comparison for Atlus' Catherine demo. Looks very similar overall, some minor lighting differences and a bit of a wash on the 360's FMV's.
GameBlurb: Versus - Catherine Demo Screenshot Comparison [720p/HDMI]
GameBlurb: Versus - Catherine Demo Screenshot Comparison [720p/HDMI]
The english demo looks the same as the Japanese version.
Can't really tell much from the heavy compression, nor are there any decent edges.
Can't really tell much from the heavy compression, nor are there any decent edges.