Yes because semi-accurate couldn't be wrong. Has to be an engineer lying about the distinct origin of the part in his system he was describing in detail.
Xbox One (Durango) Technical hardware investigation
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Yes because semi-accurate couldn't be wrong. Has to be an engineer lying about the distinct origin of the part in his system he was describing in detail.
Actually does it even make a difference?
Isn't Sea Island once again rebadging for the OEM market?
Have to admit I hadn't heard of Sea Islands, but that seems to be what they are.
Going from 12 to 18 would be 3 factors of 6.625% (so 19.875%, not 14%). That would presumably be the upper limit on a performance boost.
Yes, whether it is surprising or not, the MS engineer let out the Xbox One GPU is based upon Sea Islands,
which belongs to the AMD 8000 series and they haven't been launched yet. I think we should know more in a couple of days.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Islands_(GPU_family)
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Not to mention the yield factor, if they did +2CU instead of upclock they suddenly lose there nice deactivated CU's and most likely gain a bit of heat, iirc (shot in the dark) a uplock at the same volt produces minimally if any more heat?. That could another factor as well.
If the other guy can make millions more than you can at 18 cu...for 100 less, methinks neither yields nor costs are an issue.
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The PS4 chip is likely significantly smaller. (50+mm was the lat thing I saw).
If you don't mind the ROI then you can always create an uber machine, doesn't mean that's the more profitable.
Bigus Dickus
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That's ignoring the upclock, Whig Rangers included.
Bigus Dickus
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Whig... lol.
Yes, whether it is surprising or not, the MS engineer let out the Xbox One GPU is based upon Sea Islands,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Islands_(GPU_family)
Hmmm nice find
they can't.
ps4 is costing sony money , xbox one is making Ms money and ms includes Kinect with the console at thep rice point. Ms could out price the ps4 if they reoved Kinect easily and you will see it quickly drop in price
shredenvain
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I thought that the 7790 bonaire is sea islands. Im pretty sure it is.
Volcanic islands is coming later this week.
I coulf be wrong but im pretty sure the 7790 is sea islands
Volcanic islands is coming later this week.
I coulf be wrong but im pretty sure the 7790 is sea islands
Yes it is a sea islands product as opposed to a southern islands. Supposedly volcanic islands (Hawaii etc) will début this week. MS has a strange NDA timing. Penello said his engineers will reveal certain things this week and the timing of it is after the volcanic islands reveal. However, Bonaire was sold into the channel starting last March.
Why have an NDA on a part based on a part that's already been released 6 months earlier?
shredenvain
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Yes the upclock does up the polygons to 1.71 billion and it also increased esram bandwidth.
If the ps4's gpu stays at 800mhz it will do 1.6 billion polys a second.its not a huge advantage in polys for the x1 but they wouldnt improve at all just activating 2cus
shredenvain
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The info albert was talking about from his engineers was the article on digital foundry yesterday.
In that article the ms tech guys said the gpu is from sea islands just like sony.
They did claim they altered the compute units in the gpu but gave no specifics.
They also said they had overhead in the cus for gpgpu.
With it coming straight from ms that the gpu is sea islands that rules out it being volcanic islands.
Now the alterations they claimed to make to the compite units could be from volcanic islands but they didnt specify
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