Xbox Business Update Podcast | Xbox Everywhere Direction Discussion

What will Xbox do

  • Player owned digital libraries now on cloud

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Multiplatform all exclusives to all platforms

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Multiplatform only select exclusive titles

    Votes: 8 61.5%
  • Surface hardware strategy

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • 3rd party hardware strategy

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • Mobile hardware strategy

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Slim Revision hardware strategy

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • This will be a nothing burger

    Votes: 4 30.8%
  • *new* Xbox Games for Mobile Strategy

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • *new* Executive leadership changes (ie: named leaders moves/exits/retires)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .
As a gamer since Commodore times, I think people are a bit whiney about "plug-and-play" gaming.
I install the game, start it up, set my settings and then game.
if people find that to complicated perhaps they should find another hobby 🤷‍♂️
Everytime I play on PC, I miss just having to click a button on a controller to turn on the device and use it.
Not booting directly in to a gaming optimized interface. Having the option to use my wired earphones connected to my wireless controller. Using the mic integrated in the controller to chat. And others that I'm probably not remembering.

It's also the only device that I use that isn't bugged in some way. It just works.

As I have said before, PC isn't difficult or inconvenient to use, but a console is just easier and problem free.
 
Everytime I play on PC, I miss just having to click a button on a controller to turn on the device and use it.
Not booting directly in to a gaming optimized interface. Having the option to use my wired earphones connected to my wireless controller. Using the mic integrated in the controller to chat. And others that I'm probably not remembering.

It's also the only device that I use that isn't bugged in some way. It just works.

As I have said before, PC isn't difficult or inconvenient to use, but a console is just easier and problem free.
Since I do not use a controller I do not have those isssues (I really dislike auto-aim).
And I do not play online games and I prefer image quality, the PC is for me.
Sounds like you should ditch gaming on your PC and stick to your console 🤷‍♂️
 
Since I do not use a controller I do not have those isssues (I really dislike auto-aim).
And I do not play online games and I prefer image quality, the PC is for me.
Sounds like you should ditch gaming on your PC and stick to your console 🤷‍♂️
I like the PC for many other things, like image quality, mods and more, so just the console wouldn't be enough.
 
Actually, you just talked about how you like the PC for the graphic setting options it offers and the freedom it gives compared to a traditional console. But that's okay.

I'm just saying that all of this can be done in the next console. Only in a much more plug and play way. It can also be used as a PC. But it will also have a console interface ONLY FOR GAMES as an option, under which it will be much faster compared to the traditional current Windows. All this in a slimmer, much prettier box. Can be turned on and off with Joypad, etc. Anyone who wants to can use a mouse-keyboard combo. It can be cheaper than a PC assembled today. With Gamepass and Steam and the other stores... Many, many arguments in favor of the purchase.

If they tell you, look here for an Xbox box, with a joypad, you can use it as a PC, you can play on it from the Gamepass and Steam interface, it is ~30% cheaper than if you build a similar configuration yourself and it is faster than a traditional Windows interface. When taken out of the box and turned on, everything starts immediately with preset settings. Let's see!
 

Jez dropping hints at the console less future of Xbox. This business direction is imho more likely to cannibalize PC sales than move people from consoles to whatever this system will be. Steam OS is going to take a share of current Windows PC and to a much lesser extent console gamers. Missing in all of Jez's analyis is the most important thing which is what do the Software Developers think about supporting such a system. Because they can definitely make their games available to such a future PC Xbox but expecting them to put in extra unpaid work to make their games run with console level requirements is a dream. For a PC Xbox machine the requirements will have to be very similar to current PC games.
Roanne Sones has gone totally under the radar until this article, and tbh I never thought she could be behind a new Xbox strategy. Microsoft is the only company controlling their own OS, the potential is there to do something good.

Windows is what it is, after all, an OS that works but not without quirks. Contrary to what many people think, it's a brilliant OS 'cos it has to run on your hardware, your grandmother's hardware and so on and so forth. That's a handicap they have to overcome when talking to retailers.

Freedom has a price.
 
Roanne Sones has gone totally under the radar until this article, and tbh I never thought she could be behind a new Xbox strategy. Microsoft is the only company controlling their own OS, the potential is there to do something good.

Windows is what it is, after all, an OS that works but not without quirks. Contrary to what many people think, it's a brilliant OS 'cos it has to run on your hardware, your grandmother's hardware and so on and so forth. That's a handicap they have to overcome when talking to retailers.

Freedom has a price.
From following Phil I think its him then Roanne Sones behind this strategy. Ever since Phil was able to stream a game while in a Matutu on holiday in Kenya he's been obsessed with cloud gaming and its implications on the future of gaming. Otherwise yes they have an opportunity to set themselves apart and give people something that has always been interesting. Unfortunately things turn out differently when it comes to implementation. The benefits of a single spec fixed hw to software developers will be lost to some extent once OEMs enter the picture, but it gives consumers great choice albeit at the expense of some of other things like a seamless experience with little to no hiccups. One thing for certain, Playstation is going to become the defacto platform to create AAA titles for, like the Xbox 360 was and the PS5 has been. Simply create a title on the base configuration of the current gen Playstation hardware and then create a version for other platforms.

These Xbox PC style hybrids could provide a compelling product to current PC gamers and also stave off Steam OS as the article mentions. In the past a lot of people wondered why MS didnt put Windows on Xbox, its now the reverse that seems to be Xbox coming to Windows. Xbox hardware to the OEM. If MS fully goes in this direction it can work out well for everyone and give them growth without having to compete in hardware. The actual Xbox can be a niche product made by the Surface Team that sets the minspec for all OEM Xboxes. As well I think if this all pans out this niche Xbox from the surface team may be the first Xbox to ship with Windows.

But for the vast majority of consumers Xbox will just be an experience they get from their OEM produced hardware or cloud streaming. And the diehards will have the Xbox from the surface team.
 
From following Phil I think its him then Roanne Sones behind this strategy. Ever since Phil was able to stream a game while in a Matutu on holiday in Kenya he's been obsessed with cloud gaming and its implications on the future of gaming. Otherwise yes they have an opportunity to set themselves apart and give people something that has always been interesting. Unfortunately things turn out differently when it comes to implementation. The benefits of a single spec fixed hw to software developers will be lost to some extent once OEMs enter the picture, but it gives consumers great choice albeit at the expense of some of other things like a seamless experience with little to no hiccups. One thing for certain, Playstation is going to become the defacto platform to create AAA titles for, like the Xbox 360 was and the PS5 has been. Simply create a title on the base configuration of the current gen Playstation hardware and then create a version for other platforms.

These Xbox PC style hybrids could provide a compelling product to current PC gamers and also stave off Steam OS as the article mentions. In the past a lot of people wondered why MS didnt put Windows on Xbox, its now the reverse that seems to be Xbox coming to Windows. Xbox hardware to the OEM. If MS fully goes in this direction it can work out well for everyone and give them growth without having to compete in hardware. The actual Xbox can be a niche product made by the Surface Team that sets the minspec for all OEM Xboxes. As well I think if this all pans out this niche Xbox from the surface team may be the first Xbox to ship with Windows.

But for the vast majority of consumers Xbox will just be an experience they get from their OEM produced hardware or cloud streaming. And the diehards will have the Xbox from the surface team.
Microsoft don't lie. When Microsoft itself was buying Activision, they said that their goal wasn't to make exclusive games... but nobody believed them and they made up stories saying that Microsoft was lying to get the purchase approved...

When people get this into their heads they'll understand, what they can do is omit information at a given moment, but if they say that they are buying something to not make it exclusive, it's because they are telling the truth.

This OEM strategy means opening the games to more people (the console of the people). More people = more purchases. More purchases = better quality future games. Better quality games = what people want.
 
One thing for certain, Playstation is going to become the defacto platform to create AAA titles for, like the Xbox 360 was and the PS5 has been. Simply create a title on the base configuration of the current gen Playstation hardware and then create a version for other platforms.
Why would that be? It's not even now, it's just a mediocre closed console with limited graphics options. Just look at the console versions of multiplatform games these days, many games have virtually no optimization and can only provide medium or low graphics compared to a PC with an average configuration.

If MS makes its own XboxPC console, it will be a powerhouse, as it has been hinted at. The Playstation closed console will not be able to compete with this concept, because due to its limited set of functions, it cannot be sold too expensively. On the other hand, the XboxPC can be sold more expensively because the hardcore gamers will buy it anyway, while the OEM little brothers are bought by a lot of average users. If we look at it from the point of view of technology/graphics/hype, the MS XboxPC will be the best presentation of AAA video games, just as nowadays the most popular videos on YouTube and all other media are those that present games running on expensive PCs.
 
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