XB360 suicide software prices

For the last 3 years or so, the Average Selling Prices or ASPs of games have been falling fast. So Wall Street is prodding these publishers to try to push the ASPs higher with the new generation, in order to boost revenues.

I don't think these publishers are sure that the higher prices will be accepted. I think discounting could happen fast if games don't sell well enough after a couple of weeks.

Game releases are slotted so that they have a limited shelf life before newer games come out and displace older games which aren't selling as well. It's kind of like the movies, where once sales slow down or don't do well to begin with, new movies take over the screens.

A lot of superstores and discount chains in the US are now using loss-leader strategy with games to get people into the stores, with $10-15 discounts on new games during the first week of release not atypical.

That isn't to say you'll see that with the next generation games, since they could still do that with current generation games while they still sell well. But those lower-priced current ge. games serve as competition for the gaming dollars.

So there will be downward pressure on game prices, although with a new console, the pace of game releases are slower so next gen games may have longer shelf life for the first year.
 
Dr Evil said:
Well I will buy games from Canada too, offcourse it's not so easy to get rid of them, but I will only buy games that I want hold on to. I don't see what's the problem with Live is?, it's not locked to certain regions if that's what you mean, Europeans can play against americans, and I can play against finnish guys if I want to, atleast on most games. Are you sure you need transformer? it has extrernal powersource like PStwo and PStwo's brick can take 110-240volts, all I had to do, was to get a new cable which costs about 1$. Now I'm not sure about X360's brick, but at the worst case I may have to ditch about 50e for transformer, or for european X360 brick which should work in all X360's

I can clearly understand that importing is not appealing to everyone, but I like the cheaper price (even after taxes) and the fact that many games comes out earlier in North-America. Both my Xbox and PS2 are US-model and I have been pretty happy with them.

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I had my PS2 stuff from there also. It was pretty good because their shippings always dodged the duty somehow.
When ordering at somwhere else I always had to pay duty fees and import taxes.
But I don`t think I will import again next gen, it`s still bit of a hassle and the voltage converter finally smoked my PS2. Oh and I don`t have a credit card anymore.
 
anyway i believe we discused this months ago ?



Personaly at launch im buying pdz and kameo and both are 50$ so to me that is a good deal when the rest of the games are 60$ . Then i will rent unless something really good comes out or things start to drop.

I'm going to just start to buy a few months down the line when things drop from now on unless a game gets really good reviews
 
Powderkeg said:
1st party games are unchanged in price. It's only the 3rd party games that have increased, and they will do the same on the PS3 and Revolution. It's an industry change, not one companies decision.
It's far too early to guess Revolution's prices. We guess PS3 games will be pricey to cover extra development, but Nintendo going on about cheaper to develop for, and wanting to attract customers, a higher game price seems counter productive. I think it'd make more sense to release cheap console, cheap games, new gameplay, lower license fees, and get money off people unwilling to blow 50 bucks on a game but happy to spend 30. And the lower license fees will attract 3rd party who have to spend lots on XB360/PS3 development + higher license fees and charge more for less customers (though as jvd points out with a three tierd purchasing structure in the long term that might not be the case). Cheaper game mightr see Nintendo occupying the number-one software sales spot more often too, helping with market perception as a viable console.
 
I do hope those prices will go down after launch. I can undestand having higher prices around launch, but thse kind of prices through the whole console cycle will not be good. I could see my self getting a couple f games at launch for that prise, but after that I would be waiting for a price drop. I might give that kind of money for a game that I would really think deserves it, but there are not that many games around.

I agree with Cliffy B, pries shouldn't be over $40, makes games to an impulse bying item, not something you have to save for half a year before you get it...
 
macabre said:
I had my PS2 stuff from there also. It was pretty good because their shippings always dodged the duty somehow.
When ordering at somwhere else I always had to pay duty fees and import taxes.
But I don`t think I will import again next gen, it`s still bit of a hassle and the voltage converter finally smoked my PS2. Oh and I don`t have a credit card anymore.

Yes some Canadian companys write lower price on the package and also I don't know where you live, but in Finland if the order isn't more than 45e customs doesn't care about it, and almost every game is below that. Importing X360 is not so great deal, because Microsoft releases their games in Europe almost the same time as in America so there aren't that many games that I'll get sooner. Sony however has different policy and because of that I'm more keen on importing PS3, Importing X360 was a "flip of coin" desicion for me. Like I said it's not sure yet that a voltage converter is reguired, I'd day there is atleast 50% chance it it isn't. However should I need it, I know some high quality converters that will not cause problems. For my Xbox I changed the powersource for european model, so it works fine.

edit: It's a pity though that canadian dollar is quite strong at the moment, not much lower than US$
 
Powderkeg said:
If someone can afford a $50 game, they can afford to spend $10 more. If they can't, then they have some serious financial problems they need to resolve before worrying about gaming.


I don't know, somewhere there goes a line as o what you are willing, sometimes out of prinsiple to give for a game. I mean one could be playing the $10 forever. If they can pay $60 they can pay $10 more. If the can pay $70 what is $10 more? and so on. And if someone is bying quite a few games then yes those accumulative $10 do play a role. The solution for the gamer is fewer games, which the gamers don't like as well as the console industry as a whole I assume...
 
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