Where do you stand with the FX

Where do you stand with the FX

  • Definitely not going to buy

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Going to wait for R350

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Pickup a cheaper 9700

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No need to buy anything! No software requires either.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    193
I thought it would be interesting to get a general feel from this audience on where this product sits, with regards to picking up a FX in the near future...

It would obviously depend on a variety of factors, especially if you picked up a 9700 in the last few months...
 
Nope. I got myself a R9700 just recently and I would still choose it after seeing those GFFX-results.
FSAA is very important for me so a card that has only got one rotated grid multisampling-mode is out of the question.
 
Going to buy IF the 2x AA bug is fixed and performance is increased by 7.5%.
Otherwise, I won't buy it.


Uttar
 
I voted for "wait for R350", though I might pick up a 9700/Pro.

I'll be building a new system this spring (likely, whenever the springdale / canterwood Intel boards come out.) A lot depends on the exact pricing situation at that time, but with the current status of the FX, there's no way I will buy one of those. I'll either end up with a "cheap" Radeon9700/Pro, or whatever the R350 is, depending on the actual price / performance differential.
 
You forgot "perhaps going to buy it".

i.e. here's waiting for somebody to release a GFFX without this Flow thingy (or NV greatly reducing the noise this spawn from hell produces--it's worse than my neighbours, for Pete's sake). Looks like R350 for me right now, mind.

ta,
-Sascha.rb
 
I dont have much choice in the matter.. I run UW/SCSI on my PC's and the Adaptec cards have the 50-pin on the backside of the card for CD/CDR and DVD-ROM drives. It's also no coincidence that the 2nd PCI slot down is the only "master" PCI slot on most Asus motherboards and is the only place I can get the Adaptec 39160UW series to play nice with both a PCI NIC and PCI soundcard.

I would definately like to build an IDE system to try one of these out though. While everyone else seems a bit disgruntled with the FSAA performance, I'd like to see 8xS first-hand. While edge AA seems to be either broken or inferior (you decide), what screenshots dont show is aliasing, shimmering, pixel popping or the like. I'd be very interested to see how the Geforce FX stacks up against the troubled texture aliasing in games like NFS-PU, Serious Sam 1/2, FS-2002, etc.etc.etc. Sims, RPGS, racing games, strategy games... I'm also hoping the new xS modes will be able to be extended past Direct3D and work in both OGL and Direct3D with the same effectiveness.

A lot of the games that I enjoy playing are plagued more with alpha/texture aliasing moreso than simple edge aliasing. 4xS on the Ti4600 is a pretty nice cure, albeit still doesnt hold a candle to SS on the 8500 in terms of this problem. The games in question can surely stand a big performance hit. If the GeForceFX 8xS modes can help combat this issue, I'm very interested- especially given it's ability to provide SS-like results from the blended xS modes, and fairly good performance.. I just wish there were more reliable sources to key on overall IQ rather than zoomins of edges and no note of how smooth/clean textures may look in motion (*cough* Rev get a GFFX yet? *cough*).
 
Shocked that anyone would want to buy this thing. (The hairdryer sound effects aren't enough?...) I thought I'd see 0% for buying instead of 2%. Shocked, to the core of me' bones!....;)

Although I've got an 9700P currently, I am going to buy the R350, most likely, when it ships (but I wasn't really "waiting on it" so I didn't answer that way in the poll.)
 
I put down "no need to buy anything".

You won't find me paying for either solution. The pixel shader generation is a big don't care for me without some games that show it as a clear MUST have. However a generic R350 ought to be quite bit cheaper and as fast or faster. Maybe by the time that comes out Nvidia will have moderately priced one as well. But, if I had to speculate the R350 generic version would be the card to upgrade from my GF2 GTS. My price point is around $200 max for a gfx card in my performace system at home.

IMO the only real advantage ATI has, is their algorithm for AA is more efficient with pretty much the same or better IQ. All the other things are either bus-width, ram, or process issues which are mearly short term issues and will probably be equalized fairly quickly(~6 mo for both sides).

ATi -> .13, DDR2
Nvidia -> 256bit bus, fix heat issue.

Maybe Nvidia has a slight advantage with drivers, but i bet no 3D game is being made today that developers don't make sure work(mostly:) with ATI and NVIDIA cards before it ships. This was not always the case for ATI in the past and is probably still a major obsticle for all other gfx card vendors beside the big 2.
 
I've got an 8500 and i intended upgrading in the spring. I'd hoped to have had a choice but since november when the FXs AA was said to be just ordered grid the choice has gone and its r350 only now. :|

I think this thread deserves to be the the board and drivers forum though :p
 
Uttar said:
Going to buy IF the 2x AA bug is fixed and performance is increased by 7.5%.
Otherwise, I won't buy it.

Hmm, you will buy a 400$ dollar card for its 2x AA ?! For me 4x AA and 8x AF is what i'm looking for in an expensive card, of course that is only one of the option you are considering, but i dont thing 2x AA is that important.

edit: hmm probably i have made the wrong assumption, ignore the post.
 
I'm just glad my 9700 is on its way, gonna do a little card modding..$ 32 US for the heatpipe setup or Crystal orb...I have a 120 mm Fan blowhole blowing onto the video card area...very quiet though 22 db.
 
I'm definitely jumping back to nVidia, it just depends what is availible.

if the FX Flow is still noisey as hell when the final thing comes out, I won't get the Ultra.

If some company releases a different cooling method that is ALOT quiter, I will get the Ultra.

If neither of the two above are released, then I will get a GF FX vanilla... With 256 MB of RAM, if it's availible.
 
no options of "waiting for NV35" or "waiting for R400"? guess I'll have to go with definitely not buying it then... :(
 
Where's the "i'm a cheap bastard and won't buy any card over $150!" option?

(Of course, I just bought a 9500 for $160 delivered, but still...)
 
i have a r9700pro so no need for buying a fx. I would even consider it as a little downgrade .
 
The way I see it:

Right now GFFX is simply too expensive for perfomance it offers.

A little later (around April, I heard) there will be R350 (0.13, ~500MHz, 8x2 - it's all rumours, off coarse). It will simply demolish GFFX in perfomance. (However, ATI can simply overclock R300 with such poor perfomance numbers from GFFX. So don't get your hopes up for this rumours.)

And, by the latest info from NV, we can expect an announcment of NV35 around may. But when we will see NV35-based cards in retail remains to be seen.

Then, somewhere around autumn, we can expect R400 from ATI.

Judging by all this i'd say, that if i want to buy a card right now, i'd go with R9700Pro or wait for the R350. Cause something is telling me, that NV35 (which could very well be on par with R350 - it's not a simply overclocked NV30 AFAIK) won't be around till the end of summer...

NV is going down in high-end. It's a real pity... However, money's coming from low-end and mainstream. Let's wait for NV31/34...
 
If the product was offered before the 9700......then the product would look great compared to the GeForce 4 TI-4600 and an ATI-8500. Just shows how important execution truly is.

Shark raised some good points but I think a world class engineer team can offer more than just order grid. This may sell or work when FSAA was in its infancy but there is no excuse anymore not to offer more quality here, sorry.
 
I was considering the purchase of this card. But noise, image quality, AA+AF quality, as well as heat has definately kept me with ATI for this round.
 
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