When Tuesday does the G70 NDA expire?
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Thanks Dizietsma for the update, please keep us posted.
One of two reasons: either it doesn't and that's a cherry picked one or else they're holding back for the ultra to compete with ATi.DemoCoder said:
I ain't in no rush to upgrade either right now, I'm very content to sit back and see what develops on both sides before I jump.Kombatant said:I think I will hold back too until both companies decide to stop holding back
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=66485
Single-slot 7800GTX and H.264 Hardware Assist mentioned.
Single-slot 7800GTX and H.264 Hardware Assist mentioned.
DemoCoder said:
MPEG-4 AVC assist may be some time away....
Again, 3DMark05 is vertex fetch limited, not vertex power limited. There's a VFE that pulls geometry out of card memory and feeds it into the vertex unit to then spit out to triangle setup. The VFE is where the 05 limitation is.
Kombatant
Regular
gsgrunt said:
I am not blowing smoke, simply stating the obvious: ATI did wait for nVidia to make the first move. Now the ball is on their court. They have a card, which will be released within this summer as well. I cannot make any comments about its performance (obviously), I will just say that declaring victory for either camp is not possible yet (hence my 'one waits for the other' comment).
Jawed
Legend
http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy/evalue/evalue/graphics/0506/644143_11.html
NFSU2 uses at least one render to texture effect (motion blur). The 7800GTX is 10% faster than the X850XTPE at 1600x1200 4xAA/16xAF, which makes me wonder if render to texture effects are a bust with G70. Though, to be honest, I dunno if any RTT effect was in use here as I'm not sure what the default settings in NFSU2 are.
NV40 is terrible in NFSU2, G70 is 137% faster. So NVidia has sorted something out, but it looks doomed against R520.
Damn, tomorrow (later today...) is going to be an awful lot of fun.
Jawed
NFSU2 uses at least one render to texture effect (motion blur). The 7800GTX is 10% faster than the X850XTPE at 1600x1200 4xAA/16xAF, which makes me wonder if render to texture effects are a bust with G70. Though, to be honest, I dunno if any RTT effect was in use here as I'm not sure what the default settings in NFSU2 are.
NV40 is terrible in NFSU2, G70 is 137% faster. So NVidia has sorted something out, but it looks doomed against R520.
Damn, tomorrow (later today...) is going to be an awful lot of fun.
Jawed
russo121 said:DemoCoder said:My next upgrade will be an XB360 this holiday. I figure, for the cost of a G70/R520 and new CPU, I can buy an XB360 + 10 titles.
I agree entirely with you 200%
Y'know, I've been starting to get that itch between my shoulder blades today. But maybe I'll think of my first console since "Pong" this time. Have an HD TV to play it on. We'll see about that time, as probably that's as long as I can hold out.
There's going to be 10 good titles at launch? Wow, a console first.DemoCoder said:My next upgrade will be an XB360 this holiday. I figure, for the cost of a G70/R520 and new CPU, I can buy an XB360 + 10 titles.
Edit: I'll be an X360 owner. For those of you that are also going to pick one up, please remember there's a fricking console forum, and you don't need to troll PC threads with "Why pay $400 for a PC card when the X360 is out?!".
Pretty please? Had enough of that with the original Xbox for pete's sake.
Rys said:
Well, one problem is that DirectX Video Acceleration is not abstract enough (very MPEG-2 specific, for example, the IDCT functions/structures) which was one reason why the WMP10 patch was needed.
I mentioned here at the NV40 SF launch which I attended that I saw the Video Processor decoding HD on Linux using very little CPU. People were very doubtful it worked it at since PureVideo took so long to show up (but I did see it with my own eyes at the NV4x launch) My guess is that it is easier for NVidia to download the open source MPLAYER on Linux and hack it to use acceleration via some private OpenGL extension on Linux, than to get MS to patch both DirectX and WMP, especially if they need to work around HW bugs.
I fear we are in the same situation again with H.264. There is no built-in high level OS support for H.264 like in Mac OS X/Quicktime, and therefore, more patches will probably be needed to make it work.
Given that MS is more interested in promoting WMV/VC for HD content instead of its competitor H.264, we could be waiting awhile for OS level support.
ellingsen1
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It is nice to see another set of benches from pconline but I'll wait until the others come out. I am not so sure about their numbers after looking at the 3DM AA and Aquamark 3 AF IQ comparisons. In the AA one below the first set of pics has no AF applied but in the others it looks as though all the other sets have the ATI card with some AF applied.
http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy/evalue/evalue/graphics/0506/644143_12.html
Then the AF sets look like some settings may have been mixed up or AF not applied properly in the ATI drivers or the app.. It makes the ATI card look pretty bad in the IQ comparison. It looks as though only 2X AF was applied in all the ATI shots even at the stated 16XAF setting. At least I sure hope it is a mistake.
http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy/evalue/evalue/graphics/0506/644143_13.html
http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy/evalue/evalue/graphics/0506/644143_12.html
Then the AF sets look like some settings may have been mixed up or AF not applied properly in the ATI drivers or the app.. It makes the ATI card look pretty bad in the IQ comparison. It looks as though only 2X AF was applied in all the ATI shots even at the stated 16XAF setting. At least I sure hope it is a mistake.
http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy/evalue/evalue/graphics/0506/644143_13.html
Availability at Newegg.com, curteousy of Censored over at EB:
$599.00
And they're already saying this is their mid-range high-end card?!? :?
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$599.00 And they're already saying this is their mid-range high-end card?!? :?
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