When does Next-Gen stop being Next?
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i'm more of a nintendo fanbo-y..scooby_dooby said:
i was once called a xbot by some silly guy, it was about time someone told me i'm a ps2 fanbo-y.
and do you know what i think about the use of the word fanbo-y: those who resort to using it are typically intolerant, and are the kind of
it's not a matter of preference it's all about the marketshare.
for the next gen to become current gen, the current gen has to become last gen.
as long as a strong majority of gamers are PS2 users, PS2 can't be last gen, it can only be current gen. and the market won't have switched generations.
when they'll have turned to the PS3, then PS2 will be last gen. and gamers as a whole have switched generation.
nintendo isn't relevant as it's a minor system marketsharewise.
scooby_dooby
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well i can see your logic, but i think we have 3 established players in the console business, and the 1st one of them to launch signals the new generation, it just happened to be the 360.
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DuckThor Evil
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Fox5 said:
No I'm sorry for being rude, I meant November
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Current-gen: Xbox360, PS2, GC
Last-gen: Xbox...
Next-gen: PS3, Rev
Until PS3 and Rev is released upon which they too become current gen...
Last-gen: Xbox...
Next-gen: PS3, Rev
Until PS3 and Rev is released upon which they too become current gen...
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of course. I would've said the same, and if PS3 had've come out first I would've bought one, cause I don't like to wait.Magnum PI said:
Nicked - if we have to wait until all consoles are out, wouldn't that mean last gen didn't start until 2001 with the XBOX? when we all know it actually started with the dreamcast, the previous gen being ps1 & n64
scooby_dooby said:
I don't quite consider the Dreamcast on par with the other systems, it sort of had a generation to its own. Its graphics aren't on par with the other systems, and its market prescence was virtually gone by the time xbox launched.
It was next gen compared to the n64, but you could say xbox is next gen compared to the dreamcast.
Kinda...but last time the next-gen "market" started shortly after PS2 launch and it was quite obvious at the time. But now we refer to the start of the current/last-gen as DC launch (well most do, if not PS2).scooby_dooby said:
Around/shortly after PS3 launch will be when next-gen (X360 + PS3) should overtake PS2+Xbox+GC sales and software will be primarily switched. ATM the most important platform on the market is the PS2 (most development, high profile titles coming out, hardware sales).
Its really tricky...at the very least I can't call Xbox360 current-gen (and saying its next-gen is in no way a slur is it?
) until it launches here (March 2, 2006). When one console has only launched, in select regions in limited quantities its difficult to define....the switch.I seem to recall it was really during the early PS2/Xbox/GC transition phase that the "next-gen" moniker started to become particularly trendy. Even post launch of all three platforms, the consoles were still often referred to as "next gen system" in most circles, with debates whether or not the gameplay/graphics were truly "next gen" (sound familiar? ). I dont think it was until at least a year after all three platforms fully established themselves that the vernacular started to settle back into a "current-gen" line of thought, and I suppose the market reflected that.
). I dont think it was until at least a year after all three platforms fully established themselves that the vernacular started to settle back into a "current-gen" line of thought, and I suppose the market reflected that.
Lots of different take. So far I think I'm happiest with the idea current-gen is the generation dominating sales. When XB360, PS3 and Revolution start selling more than XBs, PS2s and GCs, the switch has happened.
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I think it comes down to whether or not you own one or not. I don't think you'll find many people who own a 360 who would say that next-gen is not already here.
Whereas people waiting for Revolution, or PS3, will be inclined to think next-gen has not arrived, cause their console of choice has not arrived.
The market leader argument has holes IMO. How long until after the PS2's launch until it began selling more software than PS1? It wasn't instantly, si by that logic last gen did not begin until well after ps2 launched. Furthermore, by installed base alone you could argue that PS2 will be the most 'important' platform until 2008 or 2009. So I don't really see that as a valid measurement.
I say keep it simple, can you go out right now and buy a next gen system? Yes. So next gen is here.
Whereas people waiting for Revolution, or PS3, will be inclined to think next-gen has not arrived, cause their console of choice has not arrived.
The market leader argument has holes IMO. How long until after the PS2's launch until it began selling more software than PS1? It wasn't instantly, si by that logic last gen did not begin until well after ps2 launched. Furthermore, by installed base alone you could argue that PS2 will be the most 'important' platform until 2008 or 2009. So I don't really see that as a valid measurement.
I say keep it simple, can you go out right now and buy a next gen system? Yes. So next gen is here.
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liverkick said:Basically. If a 3DO turns on in a forest and no one is around to play it...did it really turn on? Or something.
No-one's arguing that. The question is when will/should people stop calling XB360 and friends next-gen?You have an XB360. You have a next-gen console. When does it stop being next-gen? Or, is it no longer next-gen but vurrent gen, and PS3 and Rev are current gen, and Ps2 and XB and GC are previous gen?scooby_dooby said:
IMO next gen starts being current gen as soon as all (major) next gen consoles have released, at the same time the current gen becomes last gen and the yet unannounced conoles become the new next gen.
