What do you expect for R650

Wake me up when the drivers have matured... Hopefully, then, testing will reveal useful data about the architecture.

Jawed

 

I still want to know how the drivers can be so immature. Even if the hardware was bugged for months and not ready for release, they were still working on the software. And they have software experience with Xenos's first generation design! To me, the R600 drivers say that there is something way off with the hardware itself. Now, whether there are serious bugs or just a flawed architecture who knows. Considering it's a "2nd generation design", the latter would be really disappointing to say the least.

I wonder when the plans for the 3:1 and 4:1 ALU ratios were drawn up? Years ago, I'm sure. And the software is not there yet to make such a design shine.

 

There a significant difference in the target hardware, software model and usage scenario between the 360 and a PC.

 

Computex 07: There is no 65 nm R600
We learned a disturbing bit of news and that is that all the informations including the “leaks within AMDâ€￾ about the 65 nanometre were false.
AMD wants to find some high profile mole(s) and deliberatly planted these two codenams and a chip specification. Fudzilla has seen these documents and can confirm that there were at least a few mentions of R650 or R670, but I have to dissapoint you all, as it is not real.
R600 is the best you will see from ATI until Christmas and you will have to find your peace with it.


However RV670 exists.

 

lol if true

 

Seems ATI should be a bit more worried about making decent hardware for a change than finding moles right now.

 

We are 3 weeks away from "Q3 2007". You think we might have heard something about it if a 1 billion transistor chip was just a few months away from release at this point?

My wooden cube says H108 for R650/70/whateverty.

BTW, I doubt ever-so-slightly that Dave is going to reveal AMD's release schedule for unannounced products - but I am a pessimist.

 

As we don't seem to have an R600 rumours and speculation thread any more, I'll post this here....

The Inquirer still reckons there will be a 1GB R600 card. The story is about 8800GTX Ultra prices being cut to sub-$600.

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40128

 

Who touched Sasha?

First page of this thread:

So, where is the news?

 

Next time when you quote something from fruitzilla don't forget the link

If true than maybe wee see r700 earlier than excepted (2007 q1), but this year will be loooooong for AMD with r600 , i think they loose to the end of the year 6-7% market share in the discrete graphics segment against nv.
They have one hope left the rv670, but im sure nv has something against rv670 and its coming earlier than rv670.

I try to find some shine in the end of the tunnel time to time, but i see only dark clouds, and i not understand what the hell amd graphics doing.

BTW. its only fruitzilla, so....

 

This means 80nm, or 55nm, or any other choice?

Looking for r600 and 80nm, amd can't do anything with r600 on 80nm, they have months to try something but TSMC 80nm HS process failed with r600.

 

I am sorry,I try to write that link, but no effect.

BTW, i hear another rumor: there is a R680,but not this year.

 

Follow-up, in the form of someone actually selling such a card (in OEM form, I think):

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40161

They also claim Sapphire is about to launch a 512MB GDDR4 R600 card:

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40160

 

Where they got 256MBit GDDR4?
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/common/product_list.aspx?family_cd=GME1101

 

Or it's possible, there is no R650 or R680.

 

Didn't Dave Orton actually talk about the 650? Don't know about the process node though.

 

Yes he did, and IIRC he also mentioned 65nm when he mentioned it.

 

When/where?