Vista vs Beryl video

some of the stuff is extremely useful...


some of it however, is quite pointless... it does in fact, put windows to shame with higher complexity and much smoother and more efficient.
 
some of it however, is quite pointless... it does in fact, put windows to shame with higher complexity and much smoother and more efficient.

So you're saying that it's a deeper red, and more shiny. So it's better. But it's still lipstick.
 
Well, the lipstick part - neglecting all the parts that ARE useful - shows that a sidebar community development project can out-wow M$ and that's actually quite significant.
 
I look at my Start Menu under Windows, if it has any structure then that's because I put it there despite Windows wanting to make that hard for me.

I look at the equivalent under OpenSUSE (which seems to want to open a window with 500 icons, of which at least a dozen are my choices for which VT100 emulator I want to run). i have to scroll down several screens, and believe me I have a BIG chuffing monitor. This is bad.

I open Go -> Applications on my Mac. I see a window full of randomly placed icons representing my installed software.

In the end I end up wondering why presenting me with a list of several tens or hundreds of icons in a menu cascade or window is a good way to allow me to choose which application I want to start. It isn't. It sucks.

That's sort of what I'm angling at. Don't even get me started on the Vista/MCE Control Panel. Has anyone worked out how to present a large number of options in an intuitive way without blowing the users brain out with icon overload?

That's basically where I'm going. I'm not pretending to have answers here, don't get me wrong, but I don't see 3D desktops, transparency and bubbly fades as a substitute for something truly new and innovative.

Sidebars/widgets/gadgets/snuffits are fine and all, but we've had that sort of stuff for a couple of decades now. It may be easier for third-parties to write them these days, but they don't really represent a paradigm shift(*) in GUI functionality.

(*) my apologies for using that term
 
Ubuntu's structuring by class (graphics, internet, programming, etc.) helps a lot.
 
Well, the lipstick part - neglecting all the parts that ARE useful - shows that a sidebar community development project can out-wow M$ and that's actually quite significant.
Definitely. Especially because most users wanted XP and now Vista "because it looks nice".

And that is at least 50% of the marketing policy, it seems.


And let's not get started about functionality. ;)
 
That's sort of what I'm angling at. Don't even get me started on the Vista/MCE Control Panel. Has anyone worked out how to present a large number of options in an intuitive way without blowing the users brain out with icon overload?

That's basically where I'm going. I'm not pretending to have answers here, don't get me wrong, but I don't see 3D desktops, transparency and bubbly fades as a substitute for something truly new and innovative.

Sidebars/widgets/gadgets/snuffits are fine and all, but we've had that sort of stuff for a couple of decades now. It may be easier for third-parties to write them these days, but they don't really represent a paradigm shift(*) in GUI functionality.

(*) my apologies for using that term
Well, it's different and looks nicer. Or at least more awe-inspiring. And that's what most (non-corporate) users (you know, the IE, MSN and Outlook Express crowd) care about, according to Microsoft.
 
The most useful 3d effect I've seen on any platform was a plugin for compiz (installed by default on pclinuxos I believe) that allowed you to make windows transparent. Nice for watching a movie while doing something else.
 
Automatically with most everything from an ubuntu repository. For manually installed or compiled you have to do it yourself, but everything from Oo_O, Sribus, Qcad, Ekiga, Skype and so on just landed where it should be.

Edit: that's not quite right...I installed Skype from the Skype site (newer version) and it went to the right place as did Google Earth, so I guess most stuff gets sorted somehow.
 
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