Awesome, do you have a link perhaps?
Virtua Tennis 3 announced for PS3/360
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Awesome, do you have a link perhaps?
Understood, I simply mentioned those factors as improvements in such qualities are visible from any reasonable distance, where as the sharpness offered by higher display resolution is quickly lost by sitting too far away to perceive the difference.not to mention, even with corrective lenses, my vision is not 20/20
I am sometimes about 10' away and feel good about the DLP offering good contrast/blacks and color though. :smile:
Steven Lycett (posting with the user name of "SOL"), a producer at Sumo Digital, the developer working on the Xbox 360 port, mentioned it at NeoGAF.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=141418&page=2
The press release boasts about 1080p of detail, and upscaling is not generally considered as a way of adding relevant detail, anyway.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=141418&page=2
The press release boasts about 1080p of detail, and upscaling is not generally considered as a way of adding relevant detail, anyway.
native 1080p on xb360
Wouldn't it make better sense to render all games on 360 at 1080p and let the scaler down sample the image to 720p and lesser displays? Even if devs could not even get 2xaa at 1080p it would still enable those with 1080p displays to run their games in full resolution while lower res displays would get supersampling.
2 tiles 1080p no aa
2 tiles 720p 2xaa
Post processing would not have the benefit of a smaller front buffer but couldn't these fx be applied at a lower resolution and upscaled then applied to the full res backbuffer?
From my understanding postprocessing comprises of things like color adjustment, blur, grain, etc.
These seem like operations that would not be overly sensitive to upscaling.
Wouldn't it make better sense to render all games on 360 at 1080p and let the scaler down sample the image to 720p and lesser displays? Even if devs could not even get 2xaa at 1080p it would still enable those with 1080p displays to run their games in full resolution while lower res displays would get supersampling.
2 tiles 1080p no aa
2 tiles 720p 2xaa
Post processing would not have the benefit of a smaller front buffer but couldn't these fx be applied at a lower resolution and upscaled then applied to the full res backbuffer?
From my understanding postprocessing comprises of things like color adjustment, blur, grain, etc.
These seem like operations that would not be overly sensitive to upscaling.
My bad, I work early in the morning this week
My two cents for marketing!
Erm, might be a silly question, but i only got my 360 connected to a 50" 720p Bravia - is it actually possible to output 1080p via component? I think at least on the PS3 thats only possible via HDMI isnt it?
Doesn't make any sense at all IMO. Developers should choose the resolution that best fits their game design as well gives the best visual punch. A number of developers have commented on how they could get "better graphics" at lower resolutions if it were not mandated to use HD resolutions. Take Gears of War as an example: you force Epic to hit 1080p framerate is going to suffer or visual quality is going to be cut. Whatever the bottleneck(s) are could see some drastic quality reduction to hit an artificial resolution check box that, to the common end user, is irrelevant.
As for downscaling, many 360 games are not downscaled, but instead it renders at the native resolution. This is pretty common for games in 480p from what I have heard (i.e. native 480p rendering and not 720p downscaled).
http://www.gaming-age.com/cgi-bin/p...s3&imgnum=119&pagenum=5&title=Virtua Tennis 3
good screens some showing the online component (360) including Spectator mode. :smile:
good screens some showing the online component (360) including Spectator mode. :smile:
http://xboxyde.com/news_4022_en.html
Wow, it seems that the games looks on Xbox 360 like arcade version plus it can be rendered at 1080p. Dood job Sumo Digital!:smile:
Wow, it seems that the games looks on Xbox 360 like arcade version plus it can be rendered at 1080p. Dood job Sumo Digital!:smile:
Nice to see a 3D crowd.
What's the likelihood of them using a 24-bit Z buffer to just nudge the backbuffer under 30MB so that they only need to do 3 tiles? I'm not too familiar with Z-buffer usage, but would they need that extra precision for such a closed-off environment? I mean... it's just a tennis court i.e. not something with a huge draw distance.
(~27.7MB w/24-bit Z)
What's the likelihood of them using a 24-bit Z buffer to just nudge the backbuffer under 30MB so that they only need to do 3 tiles? I'm not too familiar with Z-buffer usage, but would they need that extra precision for such a closed-off environment? I mean... it's just a tennis court i.e. not something with a huge draw distance.
(~27.7MB w/24-bit Z)
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Nice to see a 3D crowd.
What's the likelihood of them using a 24-bit Z buffer to just nudge the backbuffer under 30MB so that they only need to do 3 tiles? I'm not too familiar with Z-buffer usage, but would they need that extra precision for such a closed-off environment? I mean... it's just a tennis court i.e. not something with a huge draw distance.
(~27.7MB w/24-bit Z)
Interesting - any word of other titles skimping on Z?
PS3 gameplay videos:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?type=wmv&id=17662
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?type=wmv&id=17659
So it looks like on 360 with slightly better shadows. Too bad Sega didn't include online in this version, though.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?type=wmv&id=17662
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?type=wmv&id=17659
So it looks like on 360 with slightly better shadows. Too bad Sega didn't include online in this version, though.
Demo available now on Xbox Live
VT3 Demo available now on Xbox Live
looks really good IMO (720p) but not better than most recent releases in general. the lighting and textures are better than Top Spin2 (a year old?) by far and the game play feels pretty good although a little different than I remember from Dreamcast version. :smile: great use of color and the close up skins look as good if not better than any screens I've seen. The animations could use some smoothing but not bad.
This game has the potential to rule on Xbox live as it seems to play a pretty lively game
VT3 Demo available now on Xbox Live
looks really good IMO (720p) but not better than most recent releases in general. the lighting and textures are better than Top Spin2 (a year old?) by far and the game play feels pretty good although a little different than I remember from Dreamcast version. :smile: great use of color and the close up skins look as good if not better than any screens I've seen. The animations could use some smoothing but not bad.
This game has the potential to rule on Xbox live as it seems to play a pretty lively game
noticed several more things after extended gameplay:
it's not easy
the demo cycles through several different venues giving you a good view of the surfaces and different lighting environments
the music sucks...
...which did give me a chance to use one of the coolest features of the X360 OS though.... hit guide mid-demo call up a playlist from my PC and stream music into the game which keeps all of the announcing and sound effects in tact and ONLY replaces the in game music. Much better:smile:
it's not easy
the demo cycles through several different venues giving you a good view of the surfaces and different lighting environments
the music sucks...
...which did give me a chance to use one of the coolest features of the X360 OS though.... hit guide mid-demo call up a playlist from my PC and stream music into the game which keeps all of the announcing and sound effects in tact and ONLY replaces the in game music. Much better
:smile: