Ubisoft financial report: PS3 to launch Late Fall 2006

One really odd thing about that chart is that it shows a 2006 launch for Revolution in Europe, but no launch at all for the US. I somehow doubt Nintendo would launch in Europe before the US (unfortunately from a European perspective)...

 

just going by the last 2 console launches from sony . Even the psp launch line up was lack luster , though no where near as bad as the ps2 launch (remember i'm talking japan which is nromaly many months earlier )

Your agreeing with my points , so obviously its a simply conclusion to come to. Its better for sony and the industry if they launch later in the year not spring. In the usa the holidays is the buying season not march .

 

qtr 3 is what august to october ?

 

July to September inclusive. A september launch could make sense, at least there's more precedent there for a september launch if you look at previous launches in all territories than there is for a July or Aug launch.

 

That still doesn´t constitue enough evidence, since launch situations were very different. PS2 had pretty terrible SDK´s and PSP´s specs were changed significantly (not to mention that PSP´s support isn´t quite there yet, considering it´s not a successor of the market leader´s previous portable), just to name a few reasons why they were different.

PS3´s launch can be quite good, thanks to, ironically, MS´s rush to launch X360. Have a few exclusive titles for development, make some quick X360 ports (they should be identical in quality, at the very least) and you have a pretty strong launch lineup.

:looking where I´m agreeing with jvd:

Nope, can´t find it. What I find funny is you talk as if if it were a fact that Sony won´t have enough titles to launch.

I mean, it´s Sony, the market leader, remember? I´m sure they already one or two titles in development for PS3.

 

Didn't help the ps2 when the dreamcast was out for what 18 months before it ?

Agreeing right here. Ports don't make a system launch. If someone wanted to play that game and it was that important to them they could have bought a x360 months before it

 

I remember when have a few quick ports from a competing console was looked down on.

 

If Sony was launching in Spring, some ports would be important (the sports games etc.). From a "next-gen quality" POV, I'd agree they're not very appetizing however, as they'd likely be ports of ports of current gen games, looking at the multiplatform and "next-gen" agenda of certain large publishers this year with some games, at least.

If Sony launches in Fall they would benefit from certain key publishers going all out with next-gen development by that time, and possibly the benefit of the first "ground-up" next-gen games from certain franchises. If they launched in Spring, I suspect they'd have to make do with the less "ground up" nature of a lot of big name multiplatform titles.

 

well sports games are expected. I don't think anyone really considers it a port.


But as i've said , i don't think ports are going to change anyones mind over what systems they rare going to buy . If all you want are games that will be on both the ps3 and x360 why are you going to wait those 5-6 months to play them on the ps3 ? Mabye for die hard fans . But for alot of early adopters they will go with the x360. So sony needs established games in the usa . It was really mgs2 that took the wind out of sega as sega till that point had all the games worth while and the system was selling extremely well .

Right in fall not only will they have whatever games they had in spring , but those games will be more polished and they would have polished games that are important to consumers in the usa .

 

The early adopters usually are the hardcore.

It seems to be that the wider market appears to be led by more than "simply" games - having the games helps, but it's one part of a seemingly quite complicated puzzle.

 

I disagree ,there is a diffrence between ahrdcore and hardcore fans . A hardcore gamer will buy the x360 , ps3 and ns5 on the day of launch regardless of titles .

The hardcore fan will buy the system they are fans of regardless of tittles .

Then there are the early adopters who will jump on board at the start if something catches thier eye . I was on line for the dreamcast with someone who never owned a sega system at midnight hte night before the system released

 

They are both hardcore though. I wasn't distinguishing between hardcore gamers and hardcore fans of a particular system. Between them they're likely to make up the bulk of early purchases for a new system.

 

Thats like claming a tripple a baseball player is as good as a major league player .


Hardcore gamers are on a whole other lvl than hardcore fans. They transend the one console mindset .

 

Are u assuming that PS3 will not get exclusive titles when it launches? I really think PS3 launch will get at least many exclusive games as Xbox360 launch.

 

its not exclusives , its quality. You can get a launch line up of all exclusive games , if they are crap it doesn't matter . If the ps3 laucnhed in march with a line up like japans ps2 line up or japans psone line up it wont sell as well or generate the hype that a later launch with polished tittles would . That is my arguement .

Now if they are able to go from concept renders as shown at e3 to fully playable games completely polished and on par with the games launching on the x360 in march (gears of war ) then they can pull it off. But looking at thier history they wont pull that off .

 

Lol, you are actually assuming that PS3 won't be able to pull good launch like X360.
If you are talking about historical standpoint, then X360 will have lackster launch like Xbox. PS3 is not gonna be released until spring 06 at the earlist so E3 2005 is simply too early to show anything playable for that manner. X360 didn't look like they were ready for good launch either by looking at their E3.

 

Note that Ubi could just be being conservative. They may or may not have good estimates, and would rather say Q3 in case Sony is late, than estimate Q2 and later be wrong. It very well could be a best guess but not based on hard info. I help companies write disclosure like this all the time, and it's not necessarily something to hang your hat on if they say "estimate" which is a deliberate fudge word.

 

Early adopters cover more than just hardcore gamers. Alot of them are technophiles that buy the latest thing.

Ubisoft is a European company, they probably know the European launch but may have not been informed of the American launch.

 

Xbox 1 has had the best system launch to date. I can't think of any other console off hand to have a game launch with it that is still talked about to date. Xbox 1 has had 2 of these types of games. Most launch games for consoles are simply brushed under the rug as the better games come out.