gosh said:
just going by the last 2 console launches from sony . Even the psp launch line up was lack luster , though no where near as bad as the ps2 launch (remember i'm talking japan which is nromaly many months earlier )Of course, that´s asuming PS3 actually HAS lackluster launch games. I´d say we should wait and see who´s developing what for PS3. I expect a MUCH better launch this time around considering PS3´s ease of development and a few quick X360 ports.
Your agreeing with my points , so obviously its a simply conclusion to come to. Its better for sony and the industry if they launch later in the year not spring. In the usa the holidays is the buying season not march .´m curious though, why does everything that involves Sony is always worst case scenario with you and the other way around when it involves MS? Oh, don´t answer.
jvd said:qtr 3 is what august to october ?
jvd said:just going by the last 2 console launches from sony . Even the psp launch line up was lack luster , though no where near as bad as the ps2 launch (remember i'm talking japan which is nromaly many months earlier )
Your agreeing with my points , so obviously its a simply conclusion to come to. Its better for sony and the industry if they launch later in the year not spring. In the usa the holidays is the buying season not march .
PS3´s launch can be quite good, thanks to, ironically, MS´s rush to launch X360. Have a few exclusive titles for development, make some quick X360 ports (they should be identical in quality, at the very least) and you have a pretty strong launch lineup.
Agreeing right here. Ports don't make a system launch. If someone wanted to play that game and it was that important to them they could have bought a x360 months before itOf course, that´s asuming PS3 actually HAS lackluster launch games. I´d say we should wait and see who´s developing what for PS3. I expect a MUCH better launch this time around considering PS3´s ease of development and a few quick X360 ports.
Almasy said:I expect a MUCH better launch this time around considering PS3´s ease of development and a few quick X360 ports.
a688 said:I remember when have a few quick ports from a competing console was looked down on.
well sports games are expected. I don't think anyone really considers it a port.If Sony was launching in Spring, some ports would be important (the sports games etc.). From a "next-gen quality" POV, I'd agree they're not very appetizing however, as they'd likely be ports of ports of current gen games, looking at the multiplatform and "next-gen" agenda of certain large publishers this year with some games, at least.
Right in fall not only will they have whatever games they had in spring , but those games will be more polished and they would have polished games that are important to consumers in the usa .If Sony launches in Fall they would benefit from certain key publishers going all out with next-gen development by that time, and possibly the benefit of the first "ground-up" next-gen games from certain franchises. If they launched in Spring, I suspect they'd have to make do with the less "ground up" nature of a lot of big name multiplatform titles.
jvd said:But as i've said , i don't think ports are going to change anyones mind over what systems they rare going to buy . If all you want are games that will be on both the ps3 and x360 why are you going to wait those 5-6 months to play them on the ps3 ? Mabye for die hard fans . But for alot of early adopters they will go with the x360.
jvd said:I disagree ,there is a diffrence between ahrdcore and hardcore fans . A hardcore gamer will buy the x360 , ps3 and ns5 on the day of launch regardless of titles .
The hardcore fan will buy the system they are fans of regardless of tittles .
Thats like claming a tripple a baseball player is as good as a major league player .Titanio said:jvd said:I disagree ,there is a diffrence between ahrdcore and hardcore fans . A hardcore gamer will buy the x360 , ps3 and ns5 on the day of launch regardless of titles .
The hardcore fan will buy the system they are fans of regardless of tittles .
They are both hardcore though. I wasn't distinguishing between hardcore gamers and hardcore fans of a particular system. Between them they're likely to make up the bulk of early purchases for a new system.
jvd said:PS3´s launch can be quite good, thanks to, ironically, MS´s rush to launch X360. Have a few exclusive titles for development, make some quick X360 ports (they should be identical in quality, at the very least) and you have a pretty strong launch lineup.
Didn't help the ps2 when the dreamcast was out for what 18 months before it ?
Agreeing right here. Ports don't make a system launch. If someone wanted to play that game and it was that important to them they could have bought a x360 months before itOf course, that´s asuming PS3 actually HAS lackluster launch games. I´d say we should wait and see who´s developing what for PS3. I expect a MUCH better launch this time around considering PS3´s ease of development and a few quick X360 ports.
its not exclusives , its quality. You can get a launch line up of all exclusive games , if they are crap it doesn't matter . If the ps3 laucnhed in march with a line up like japans ps2 line up or japans psone line up it wont sell as well or generate the hype that a later launch with polished tittles would . That is my arguement .Are u assuming that PS3 will not get exclusive titles when it launches? I really think PS3 launch will get at least many exclusive games as Xbox360 launch.
jvd said:its not exclusives , its quality. You can get a launch line up of all exclusive games , if they are crap it doesn't matter . If the ps3 laucnhed in march with a line up like japans ps2 line up or japans psone line up it wont sell as well or generate the hype that a later launch with polished tittles would . That is my arguement .Are u assuming that PS3 will not get exclusive titles when it launches? I really think PS3 launch will get at least many exclusive games as Xbox360 launch.
Now if they are able to go from concept renders as shown at e3 to fully playable games completely polished and on par with the games launching on the x360 in march (gears of war ) then they can pull it off. But looking at thier history they wont pull that off .
Titanio said:gosh said:
One really odd thing about that chart is that it shows a 2006 launch for Revolution in Europe, but no launch at all for the US. I somehow doubt Nintendo would launch in Europe before the US (unfortunately from a European perspective)...
JasonLD said:jvd said:its not exclusives , its quality. You can get a launch line up of all exclusive games , if they are crap it doesn't matter . If the ps3 laucnhed in march with a line up like japans ps2 line up or japans psone line up it wont sell as well or generate the hype that a later launch with polished tittles would . That is my arguement .Are u assuming that PS3 will not get exclusive titles when it launches? I really think PS3 launch will get at least many exclusive games as Xbox360 launch.
Now if they are able to go from concept renders as shown at e3 to fully playable games completely polished and on par with the games launching on the x360 in march (gears of war ) then they can pull it off. But looking at thier history they wont pull that off .
Lol, you are actually assuming that PS3 won't be able to pull good launch like X360.
If you are talking about historical standpoint, then X360 will have lackster launch like Xbox. PS3 is not gonna be released until spring 06 at the earlist so E3 2005 is simply too early to show anything playable for that manner. X360 didn't look like they were ready for good launch either by looking at their E3.