The Official G84/G86 Rumours & Speculation Thread

caffeinated said:
I tried no less than 7, count them 7 Russian to English translators (heaven knows why I got stuck obsessing on the meaning of the red button, but oh well) and as far as I can tell it does one of the following:

1) allows you to overclock the card via the BIOS
2) clear the card's BIOS if you clock it too high (one said "it will load in dispersed mode the BIOS of installation")
3) summon a djinni which will pop out of the card and smack you in the face for overclocking it too high

I'm not certain which feature I look forward to the most, but we've certainly been needing a graphics card with a red button to press. That's a void that hasn't been filled until now.
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It says:
Ещё один вариант на базе GeForce 8600GT интересен наличием уникальной "оверклокерской кнопки", после нажатия которой карта перезагружается в "разогнанными" установками BIOS.
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One more variant based on GeForce 8600GT, which is interesting because of a unique "overclocking button", after pressing it the card will reboot with "overclocked" BIOS settings.

Its not clear from the text if this "card reboot" is on-the-fly (I guess so), or will happen on next PC reboot.
case closed :)
 
I've heard of on-the-fly driver rebooting (i even experienced one in Vista), but on-the-fly hardware rebooting of a graphics card ??
That's new. ;)
 
chavvdarrr said:
It says:
One more variant based on GeForce 8600GT, which is interesting because of a unique "overclocking button", after pressing it the card will reboot with "overclocked" BIOS settings.

Its not clear from the text if this "card reboot" is on-the-fly (I guess so), or will happen on next PC reboot.
case closed :)
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Thank you very much for the translation, Chavvdarrr. I would imagine it reinitializes the card with a preset overclocking level (since overclocking in Vista must be done via the BIOS, perhaps?). Dangerous for someone like me, though, that sees such a button and immediately thinks "Push it!". In my case the djinni might actually be a better idea :eek: !
 
Lol, this has to be some sort of practical joke that somebody is playing on the Inq/Fudo or that they're playing on us.
 
You know, I am beginning to wonder if they graphics chip makers didn't get together to try and create a "graphics card shortage" LOL to increase profits. Either that, or getting Vista drivers is killing everyone. It seems everything has been delayed lately.
 
trinibwoy said:
Lol, this has to be some sort of practical joke that somebody is playing on the Inq/Fudo or that they're playing on us.
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Not the first time that whisper has reached our ears tho, so it's been filtering around in the background for a little while. Been wondering if someone would believe it enough (or not care enough about whether it was true or not) to publish it.

Which doesn't necessarily make it correct, please note.
 
Heh, I was commenting more on the synchronization of the bad news from Fudzilla/Inquirer than the validity of either claim. Any other whispers around that haven't made it out yet?
 
trinibwoy said:
Heh, I was commenting more on the synchronization of the bad news from Fudzilla/Inquirer than the validity of either claim. Any other whispers around that haven't made it out yet?
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Well, there always are. :smile: We aren't being perverse by not sharing them. It usually comes down to either 1). We don't believe in their reliability enough to talk about them in public just yet unless someone else does so first, and then often (like I just did) only to make the point that we don't believe in their reliability enough just yet. . . It is, after all, a bit irresponsible to be the one to break a rumour of that kind and be wrong. 2). Or we're bound by our professional responsbilities (which includes both NDA matters and just professional understandings) to not discuss it. This may or may not (NDA always = may not) be impacted by whether someone else points at it in public first.
 
Understood. At least it's refreshing to know that at least some people might have a clue about what's going on :)
 
trinibwoy said:
Understood. At least it's refreshing to know that at least some people might have a clue about what's going on :)
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Spin rumours can be particularly perverse. :smile: You aren't always seeing what you think you might be seeing. Are there mobile variants? Are they already in to a transition to the next process and it's unrelated to what they are going to production with? Is it just for yields and won't impact timing because they have enough risk production from the previous? And where's your source and his visibility? The fab, an AIB, the IHV, the IHV's competition, some other part of the foodchain (like PSU makers for awhile were a rich source)? For instance, as much as I like to mock VR Zone for the R520 yield/config/fab rumours, it's not impossible what was coming back to them was actually regarding early R580 stuff and they just missed that fact in trying to analyse it. This stuff ain't easy. . . .
 
Geo said:
Not the first time that whisper has reached our ears tho, so it's been filtering around in the background for a little while. Been wondering if someone would believe it enough (or not care enough about whether it was true or not) to publish it.

Which doesn't necessarily make it correct, please note.
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What the heck is going on in graphics land, then? Seems all of the sudden no one can get any chips out.
 
vertex_shader said:
8600GTS default not score 7k in 3dmark2k6 , with big OC maybe can reach 7k.
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If those are true, it looks like it is a good bit slower than an x1950xt stock and slightly slower when overclocked. Still, that is not too bad for a midrange offering. The interesting thing is the SM2.0 and SM3.0 scores are opposite of the x1950xt. The x1950 gets higher SM3.0 than SM2.0 whereas the 8600 gets higher SM2.0. From what I could find, the 8800 scores higher on SM3.0 than 2.0. I find that interesting. Of course, this is still only 3dmark06.
 
If you read carefully, you will see that VS says that the SM3.0 scores are lower because of the 128bit bus.

vertex_shader said:
The 8600gts sm2.0 score impressive, but the sm3.0 not really, with 128bit and very high clocked memory looks like not enough for HDR. (this is only one synethic benchmark, i wait for the real tests :smile:)
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