No more than 1.5GB, incluiding Firefox and/or skype.
The Next-gen Situation discussion *spawn
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No more than 1.5GB, incluiding Firefox and/or skype.
Surely very minimal. Obviously the new GPU is far, far more powerful than both RSX and Cell combined so there should be no problem at all achieving the same results with minimal effort in an actual port. Obviously emulation is a different question altogether.
Well, to be honest you can't really go much beyond from what Sony seems to be doing without pouring big bucks into R&D and making something special. They seem to be focused on gaming first, multimedia later. With MS it seems exactly the opposite.
Yes, I think you are right. MS certainly sees Apple as a treat in home entertainment space. Still, I don't think it would hurt them to if they went with somewhat stronger GPU.
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Have to remember about virtual memory too, which Xbox probably won't have.
5GB is a lot for games if you think about it. I think it'll be enough to see some persistent world type things (blown up buildings, craters, more corpse piling, etc).
33% less flops is not weak as the wii was weak, it will run everything quiet possibly at a lower res. Average joe will never know the ps360 are already full HD from his pov, scaling only got better.
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You mean a swap partition on the HDD? Why not, I can see the OS part using it.
I honestly do not know what MS has in mind.The kinect is one of the most hated devices I've seen his games do not sell, multimedia is okay but from the second / third year of life at the launch of the system people want to see power and exclusive.If also the titles of the third party should be clearly worse on xbox next,I do not see much hope of success for MS.
IF the next xbox is the one that emerges from the rumor will probably be able to sell a few million to Halo fanboy but nothing more.Why would anyone buy a xbox next for 400$ when for the same money could buy a ps4 with better graphics,etc...
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Yep. It's possible but I could see them trying to segregate OS related I/O and memory access as much as they can, since I'm assuming the same HDD will be used in streaming for games. Not going to be good for your game engine performance if you need to account for random OS swaps.
That's the key I think. 50% less power in these days of diminishing returns will be largely unoticable to normal consumers (although hardcore gamers like us will have a field day) but the additional services and features you can add with that saved graphics power will be a hell of a lot more appealing to the target market.
I don't want to seem overly negative towards Sony, as a core gamer I certainly appreciate the more powerful gaming machine but I don't see how they can possibly compete against microsoft in the casual/entertainment market when they're facing of against the likes of Kinect, Windows 8 (and all the apps and cross platform features it will bring) and Skype based communications.
That said, from a gamers point of view, I imagine we'll see PS4 getting the better versions of cross platform games - even if it's not main development platform - so it may be the better choice for gamers who don't care about the other functions. Ignoring PC of course.
Your still thinking in terms of the hardcore games console. I think the market has moved on now.
The back touchpad on the Vita is really difficult to use with any kind of precision.
Sony has Playstation Mobile to cover those casuals. PS4 should cater to regular gamers, and should include PS Mobile library, plus motion/exercise/music games.
As for core gaming becoming stale, I'd argue that it's not really because the market has moved on. It's because core games haven't retained these people. ^_^ Wii showed them an alternate way to have (more) fun. And iOS introduced cheap and social games. Can core games be more fun than these ? Perhaps ?
As for core gaming becoming stale, I'd argue that it's not really because the market has moved on. It's because core games haven't retained these people. ^_^ Wii showed them an alternate way to have (more) fun. And iOS introduced cheap and social games. Can core games be more fun than these ? Perhaps ?
Nextbox will be port buddies with the Wii U, thus leaving Orbis to hang by itself.
This I agree. The Vita launch game featuring Lil' and Laarg (Escape Plan) uses back touch extensively. But it's tricky to use even for a puzzle game. It's probably best suited for untargeted gestures or large-grained activities (e.g., page scrolling). IMHO of course.
It's been going back and forth for months, just the latest stupid rumor from a completely made up story, and it switches again. But the 1.2TF versus 1.8TF is very pervasive, and has some kind of source. And the Special Sauce is intriguingIt is funny that days ago, the consensus was Durango > Orbis... what happened here?
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It is funny that days ago, the consensus was Durango > Orbis... what happened here?
Nothing. The 1.8 and 1.2 numbers were known. Whispers have still said devs prefer and are more excited about Durango. No new information has been added. We're just treating existing rumors as fact after 1 article. You'd think people would at least wait for the supposed CVG Durango article.