It wouldn't surprise me if in some states its a crime taking it up the rear so its not really anything new. Actually here is some info
http://archive.aclu.org/issues/gay/sodomy.html
http://archive.aclu.org/issues/gay/sodomy.html
a few months ago the one of the last few states to even have sodomy laws (texas) was challenged by the supreme court. They lost, and in effect all sodomy laws were struck down.bloodbob said:It wouldn't surprise me if in some states its a crime taking it up the rear so its not really anything new. Actually here is some info
http://archive.aclu.org/issues/gay/sodomy.html
Im curious, if a clear majority (lets say 80+%) of people want homophobic laws, why cant they have it??? You can always leave that city/state/country. Im not for banning gays, but it seems to me that if you live in a democracy roll, the majority should be able to pass laws they want, changing the constitution when necessary.sytaylor said:Friendly reminder to those trying to pass any homophobic laws..
ITS 2004!!!
sytaylor said:Friendly reminder to those trying to pass any homophobic laws..
ITS 2004!!!
epicstruggle said:Im curious, if a clear majority (lets say 80+%) of people want homophobic laws, why cant they have it??? You can always leave that city/state/country. Im not for banning gays, but it seems to me that if you live in a democracy roll, the majority should be able to pass laws they want, changing the constitution when necessary.sytaylor said:Friendly reminder to those trying to pass any homophobic laws..
ITS 2004!!!
later,
epic
Majority rule is a means for organizing government and deciding public issues; it is not another road to oppression. Just as no self-appointed group has the right to oppress others, so no majority, even in a democracy, should take away the basic rights and freedoms of a minority group or individual.
http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/principles/majority.htm
Something has to define what rights you have, either god or a piece of paper(constitution). At any point in a democracy you can redefine what rights any group of people have.kyleb said:Majority rule is a means for organizing government and deciding public issues; it is not another road to oppression. Just as no self-appointed group has the right to oppress others, so no majority, even in a democracy, should take away the basic rights and freedoms of a minority group or individual.
http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/principles/majority.htm
epicstruggle said:Something has to define what rights you have, either god or a piece of paper(constitution). At any point in a democracy you can redefine what rights any group of people have.
later,
epic
ps the founding fathers specifically didnt go with a democracy because:
democracy == MOBocracy
the reply to your quote is found within this quote. see if you can find it. if you cant ill bold it in a few hours.Florin said:Phew I'm so glad republics never change or amend their constitutions to redefine what rights any group of people have. :?
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
epicstruggle said:Im curious, if a clear majority (lets say 80+%) of people want homophobic laws, why cant they have it??? You can always leave that city/state/country. Im not for banning gays, but it seems to me that if you live in a democracy roll, the majority should be able to pass laws they want, changing the constitution when necessary.sytaylor said:Friendly reminder to those trying to pass any homophobic laws..
ITS 2004!!!
later,
epic
epicstruggle said:the reply to your quote is found within this quote. see if you can find it. if you cant ill bold it in a few hours.
I'd say I know I don't, but I've never tried it. However, the thought of it repulses me. With a man, or woman, anal sex is just plain filthy (in the literal way) to me.FUDie said:LOL, Russ, what if you enjoy it?RussSchultz said:Meh. Poke em all up the butt and see who enjoys it.
epicstruggle said:democracy: 4. Majority rule.
source dictionary.com
epic
I picked my definition, you yours. To each his own.sytaylor said:epicstruggle said:democracy: 4. Majority rule.
source dictionary.com
epic
5. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.
and you were so close to not ignoring that im sure...
Not necessarily, but i digress...RussSchultz said:With a man, or woman, anal sex is just plain filthy (in the literal way)
epicstruggle said:I picked my definition, you yours. To each his own.
later,
epic