Steam Deck - SteamOS, Zen2 4C/8T, RDNA2 1.0-1.6 TF, 16 GB LPDDR5 88 GB/s, starting at $399 [2021-12]

Well Intel claims the Ice Lake and Tiger Lake GNA blocks can indeed do image upscaling, but on real time applications they only mention voice/speech recognition (it's made for low-power operation, not performance). The throughput of Van Gogh's CMVL block should be significantly higher than Intel's GNA, though.

 

Yeah but it's still made for the exact same workloads as Intel GNA which is always-on Windows Hello-ish garbage.

 

Why so much throughput just for that, though? Are they planning always-on video processing for Windows Hello?

 

Beats me.

I dunno what but MS wants ML garbage on die and a lot of it.

 

https://careers.microsoft.com/us/en/job/1034474/Senior-Software-Engineer

 

Posted several months ago and discussed, no conclusion as to what exactly it would mean. The assumption of course being an ML reconstruction ala DLSS. What does this have to do with Steam Deck?

 

Not for gaming.
For ULV laptop chips at sub 15W...

 

1 - Steam Deck's Van Gogh SoC is a chip that was originally designed for a Microsoft device according to several sources (surface xbox? xbox portable? we don't know as Panos Panay cancelled it in late 2020 / early 2021 apparently)


2 - Van Gogh (again: originally developed with/for Microsoft) has a CVML - Computer Vision and Machine Learning block that has dedicated matrix processors with a combined throughput of ~1.5 TMACs FP16 and 4 TMACs INT8 (8 TOPs) - if clocked at 1.6GHz.




3 - Microsoft has been developing Machine Learning upscaling algorythms. These could be only for the Series S/X's INT4/INT8 RPM capabilities in the shader processors. However, if they requested AMD to put a dedicated ML inference coprocessor in the SoC of their handheld gaming device, then it could be to accelerate a ML upscaling technique using lower power and without taking compute resources from the iGPU shader processors.


4 - I'm fully aware this is 90% wishful thinking on my part.

 

ok, just checking

 

It was made for the next Surface Pro lmao.

Yesssssssss all you're getting is more okay alexa instead.

 

steam deck use vangogh right? then that's good news, valve could add an ML upscaling for steam deck for when its docked.

 

Yes

 

Microsoft made a big deal about the additions to the arm cpu they used for the surface pro x. They showed off it doing fake eyes for people while on video so eye contact is maintained. So who knows what else they are working on.

I guess the real question is what can the ML in the chip can be repurposed to do in the steam deck.

 

They didn't, it just used the big standard 8cx Hexagon.

ML is a priori gimmicky in client so obviously something useless.

Not much.
Gonna be a pile of dark silicon there just like Pluton.

 

I dunno just going by what they said

https://blogs.windows.com/devices/2...ion-with-eye-contact-now-generally-available/

 

SQ1 is overclocked 8CX (and SQ2 is 8CX Gen2)

 

Like I said I am just going by what microsoft has said.

 

Yea I got pushed back to Q2 now
Your expected order availability: Q2 2022

 

Just got my e-mail mentioning the delay too.
Nooooooo!

However my expected arrival is still Q1 2022.
I guess they were expecting to ship my Deck in January but it's now pushed to March.