Sony Disable “Install Other OS” in firmware (v3.21)
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That's also why the DS is so successful. It is nice and small, lasts for days on end without a charge (in terms of practical use, obviously, not literal 48-hour charge times), and has a massive library of popular games. The exact same piracy exists for the DS, but developers make an absolute killing. It's the best selling machine on the market today.
I've no bone in this piracy/CFW debate, but I would say I doubt developers make much of a killing on DS.
It's been interesting to hear Shane Bettenhuasen, formerly of 1up but now at Ignition as a publisher, touch on these issues when he has returned to 1up podcasts as a guest. Basically his perspective on DS and even Wii seems to be that theyre VERY tough markets for third parties at best. The problem is Nintendo dominates on them, everybody else fights for scraps.
Handheld software attach rates altogether are quite low. How much of that is due to piracy and how much the nature of the platforms I wouldn't know. The fact the Xbox is hacked but still sells a lot of games might suggest the latter, but then again we dont know how much piracy is hurting the Xbox software sales especially in Europe.
Do you have a source for this?
The real problem is that we know next to nothing about the DS market in the US, since it's rare for a handheld game to crack NPD top 10. But if it's such a goldmine, then yeah, you'd expect to see much more support from the west, unless you subscribe to the ridiculous notion that all publishers are morons. In Japan, handhelds are all that sells, and there's a strong GAF idea that this is really what's happening behind the scenes in the west as well.
The DS has more than TWICE the installed base of the PSP for hardware. I think it's fair to say the biggest reason you can't see the difference between the two is installed base. If the DS only had 50 million units in the hands of end users, maybe you'd see a better picture. Instead, you're just using guess work to validate your claims.
The PSP doesn't lack killer software. Anyone who owns one knows it has PLENTY of good software. The problem is piracy. The problem is price. The problem is perception. Parents don't see the PSP as a "kids toy", and frankly, it's not. It's not nearly as durable as the hard plastic DS, and it's not clamshell.
As for Marketing, when do you see major marketing behind DS titles? I'd love to see some of that, since, you know, I never ever see it.
We could get into list wars, but I think it's pretty clear where you're coming from...
Nope none handy, just something I've read in various articles.
Agreed.
Getting slightly off-topic though! According to Eurogamer, the FW is live now. But it's also April 1st, so they may just be in on the joke.
We'll find out soon enough.Downloading and installing it now, but I looked for a message that said it would remove OtherOS functions, but its not there. So I guess some people that do not read Sony blogs etc, will find out the hard way that they lost all their OtherOS data.....
Once you finish the download there is a special message informing this & it tells you that you can choose not to install it if you want to use OtherOS but you will then not be able to use the some features & it mentions those features.
He already addressed this by talking about the ratio of hardware sales to software sales.
Not good software, killer software. Think Mario Kart DS.
Beyonce on Rhythm Heaven? Those Professor Layton ads with Lisa Kudrow?
List wars are idiotic; where exactly is he coming from? I disagree that there isn't a compelling library, but I realize that my taste in games doesn't reflect the general population's.
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I see it around children television, and in my sons kindergarden 4 year old kids own a DS
I see it around children television, and in my sons kindergarden 4 year old kids own a DS
Every kid under 12 of every colleague I have has a DS. I'm the only one with a PSP. For my 1 year old (almost 2), the PSP is used for movies (it can lock the keys during playback, which is essential
and it is surprsingly robust, having fallen on the floor countless of times and into water once).But when it comes to games, the iPod Touch is right now miles and miles ahead of any competition in this age-group. My 1 year old has no trouble at all using it, starting his favorite applications etc. It's absolutely perfect, and downright amazing to see how easy it is for him to play with it.
With regards to the original topic. I have already written to Sony expressing my intention to take the matter to Trading Standards as they have degraded/devalued a product by removing features that were used to sell the system, and that I paid for. People seem to forget, the PS3 was always sold as something other than a games console. I won't be upgrading to ensure that my system can be used as evidence if needed. If they want to give me a second PS3 that I can upgrade, then fair enough, but I certainly won't be giving them my launch day PS3 in exchange.
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I don't think this really warrants a response.
Anyway: FW is live, OS is gone, thank god. Cry your bitter tears hackers, and those who used it, maybe now you can see what real linux is like instead of the gimped joke that was OtherOS on PS3.
Hmm, who talked about Linux? Thats a gimped joke wherever you install it, I dont need a PS3 to realize that.
It still allowed messing with a rather interesting CPU, and it still allowed homebrewed apps to run. Both options are gone now.. glad you are happy about that.
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Someone didn't read the second page of this thread.
Regards,
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Someone didn't read the second page of this thread.
Regards,
SB
Or post #59 on the third!
(actually, it seems many people didn't read that one)
