So What Are The Official Specs For the RSX?
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inefficient
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No. There is an NDA.
Use the search tools to find unofficial generally agreed on specs.
Use the search tools to find unofficial generally agreed on specs.
zoekimball
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I have always wondered why there would be an NDA on the RSX in particular. All there is to know about the other components is pretty much open in regards to the spec.
They probably don't want to expose it as castrated 7800GTX/7900GT, and thus less powerful than the Xenos.
They probably don't want to expose it as castrated 7800GTX/7900GT, and thus less powerful than the Xenos.
That's exactly it. There's nothing to be gained by officially enumerating the capabilities of RSX as it is not impressive by 2006 standards, let alone 2009. Also, they'd have to admit to the downclock in GPU clock speeds from what was announced, which I doubt they'd want to do.
zoekimball
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What, their official word is still the old value (550)?
In the deferred rendering topic, in the first PDF on page 5 it states 550MHz for the RSX. Don't know how accurate that is though.
zoekimball
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Well, that was the original/target value. In reality it's clocked down to 500MHz.
I would have a read through this:
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46782&highlight=RSX+secrets
Whatever the secrets may be, there is not much left to discuss without any new public information. Given how sensitive the topic is, I would be surprised if any new information would go without notice and not spread throughout the various "concerned" commnunities like wildfire. Have a look through the old threads, and if you share thoughts with some of the members that's cool, but as it stands, it's a topic that has no means of further explication or means to further discussion.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46782&highlight=RSX+secrets
Whatever the secrets may be, there is not much left to discuss without any new public information. Given how sensitive the topic is, I would be surprised if any new information would go without notice and not spread throughout the various "concerned" commnunities like wildfire. Have a look through the old threads, and if you share thoughts with some of the members that's cool, but as it stands, it's a topic that has no means of further explication or means to further discussion.
That hardly matters...
But wasn't one of the few area's that the RSX had an advantage over Xenos, was in clock frequency?.
Or are you saying it hardly matters, because the SPU's bolster RSX's performance, so it's foolish to evaluate it by itself?
Oh, ok. So is the main advantage of the RSX over the Xenos, the extra texture piplelines which allow it to do AF and PCF, which are less common on 360 titles?
zoekimball
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RSX has little to no advantage over the Xenos on paper, and Xenos has little to no advantage over RSX in practice.
One has the better spec that would lead you to believe it's better (Xenos), and one can seemingly churn out better graphics with or without the help of the Cell (RSX).
One has the better spec that would lead you to believe it's better (Xenos), and one can seemingly churn out better graphics with or without the help of the Cell (RSX).
How on earth did you come to this conclusion?
grandmaster
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Is there any quantifiable context or technical measurement that can back up these assumptions? And how do you ascertain whether RSX is being 'helped' by Cell or not in any given game? And how does it relate to the topic any way?
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zoekimball
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To put it simple, if the chip is better but not being used to its full potential, then that results in the inferior hardware producing the better graphics. See: Killzone 2, MGS4, Uncharted compared to Gears 2, Fable 2 and Halo 3.
No there isn't, unless you can prove me wrong.
These tech forums are not a playground for wild assertions; if you can not back up your claims with technical or quantifiable means, then there is no purpose for posting in here in the tech forums, and we have no reason to believe anything you say now.
zoekimball
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Well, the closest proof I would have are eyeballs and visual perception of games.
Will that suffice, or do you feel the hypocrisy needs to be carried even further?
These forums have degraded over the years to little more than "It is" and "It is not". If you fail to see this then you shall be blind in my world.
Will that suffice, or do you feel the hypocrisy needs to be carried even further?
These forums have degraded over the years to little more than "It is" and "It is not". If you fail to see this then you shall be blind in my world.
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