Samsung Introducing Backside Power Supply Technology To Its 2nm Process In 2025, Will Reduce Chip Area By 19%, Efficiency Improvements Inbound
https://wccftech.com/samsung-to-use-bspdn-in-its-2nm-technology-in-2025/
Samsung 2nm process
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https://wccftech.com/samsung-to-use-bspdn-in-its-2nm-technology-in-2025/
Further update. I expect the Exynos 2500 will be the first product on the 2nd gen 3nm and might actually give Qualcomm some serious competition next year, which should be on TSMC N3E. The last time this happened was when Samsung jumped everyone to 14nm and the Exynos 7420 in the Galaxy S6 was the superior SOC that year.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/2138...smartphone-soc-using-synopsys-aienabled-tools
As expected. I wonder if there's also a possibility of Qualcomm switching back to Samsung for 3nm/2nm
As expected. I wonder if there's also a possibility of Qualcomm switching back to Samsung for 3nm/2nm
https://wccftech.com/samsung-readies-1nm-process-node-unveil-july-mass-production-2026/
Samsung already readies plans for 1nm node
Samsung already readies plans for 1nm node
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As per Ming Chi Kuo, Qualcomm may be the sole supplier for the Galaxy S25 as Samsung may not use the 3nm Exynos 2500 due to low yields - https://x.com/mingchikuo/status/1802737528874955169
His sources are usually good, this would be quite damning for Samsung Foundry. If it's just a question of yield though, you'd think they could just eat the cost instead (As they've supposedly done in the past).
His sources are usually good, this would be quite damning for Samsung Foundry. If it's just a question of yield though, you'd think they could just eat the cost instead (As they've supposedly done in the past).
Maybe they can't precisely because they have in the past..
Agree it could happen, but just as well might not. It's plausible that none of the divisions involved can't bear any more losses for various political & financial reasons. Both the foundry and the chip design arm have a pretty bad track record
Samsung seems to be entering a transition period right now. 3GAP(now called SF3), which was always expected to be Samsung's first true punch in the 3nm battle, is still only just coming online and seemingly not quite ready for HVM til later this year, while the existing 3GAE(SF3E) is simply not good enough for use in any kind of higher end products that need to be competitive.
So assuming the rumor is true, it could just be bad timing given the expected release timing of S25.
Not a good look, and I think most would have hoped 3GAP would have come sooner than this by now, but probably not the end of the world assuming it is actually decent here soon enough.
So assuming the rumor is true, it could just be bad timing given the expected release timing of S25.
Not a good look, and I think most would have hoped 3GAP would have come sooner than this by now, but probably not the end of the world assuming it is actually decent here soon enough.
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Samsung Foundry Struggles with Yield and Power Efficiency Issues
This year, global fabless semiconductor and IT companies are expected to start adopting the 3nm process as their main fabrication method. It is anticipated tha
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The problem for Samsung is they’ll actually have a serious competitor for 2nd place with Intel’s 18A which they haven’t had in a long time. A lot of companies want a 2nd source but it’s too expensive/hard to port designs between foundries to ever justify having more than 2, or even to have more than a few of your chips at more than 1.
Even if Samsung gets their act together, and I assume/hope they will eventually, this is making them lose credibility that will give Intel a huge advantage at winning this business.
Even if Samsung gets their act together, and I assume/hope they will eventually, this is making them lose credibility that will give Intel a huge advantage at winning this business.
True, Samsung had somewhat kept pace with TSMC until 7nm and had marquee customers such as Apple, Qualcomm and Nvidia at various points, but has floundered since. Qualcomm basically only has some products on trailing edge nodes for cost reasons and AMD similarly has some products planned as well as per rumours. But Intel's 18A and 14A look promising and their recent execution gives some confidence that they will achieve their stated performance targets and more or less on production dates. Although it must be said that Intel will have very little foundry capacity available for external customers on leading edge nodes until 2026 essentially.
Good writeup from Ian Cuttress on the recent Samsung Foundry Forum - https://morethanmoore.substack.com/p/samsung-foundry-forum-2024-roadmaps
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삼성전자, '엑시노스 2500' 수율 개선 총력…하반기 '갤S25' 명운 갈린다
삼성전자가 내년 출시할 갤럭시S25 시리즈용 모바일 AP(어플리케이션 프로세서) 개발에 총력을 기울이고 있다. 연말 본격적인 양산 여부를 결정하기 위해 수율 개선을 위한 방안 마련에 분주한 것으로 알려졌다.20일 업계에 따르면 삼성전자 시스템LSI사업부는 올 하반기까지 엑시노스 2500의 ...
DegustatoR
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Samsung says rumors of semiconductor foundry defects are “groundless”
Samsung says rumors of semiconductor foundry defects are groundless
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Samsung named the Exynos 2500 for the first time. The company mentioned the chip in its Q2 2024 financial results report. It revealed that its System LSI business, which designs camera sensors and smartphone processors, is focusing on making sure it can offer a stable supply of the Exynos 2500 for “flagship products.” - https://www.sammobile.com/news/samsung-exynos-2500-chip-confirmed-first-time/
So they might still offer the Exynos 2500 after all. Let's wait and watch.
So they might still offer the Exynos 2500 after all. Let's wait and watch.
Frenetic Pony
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I want to see it. It's going to be the only mobile RDNA4 launch, and despite headlines RDNA in Exynos has matched Qualcomm's offerings every single year (you need to set power limits to be the same for comparing otherwise identical phone chassis, duh).
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