Agreed. These attacks have become increasingly petty and pointless. They accomplish nothing, prove nothing and speak more to the infantile attitude of the hacker than they say anything about Sony.
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Agreed. These attacks have become increasingly petty and pointless. They accomplish nothing, prove nothing and speak more to the infantile attitude of the hacker than they say anything about Sony.
You make it sound like these guys are looking to take moral high ground and that you can chastise them into stopping.
They'll stop when Sony closes up the vulnerabilities or they get bored of it. At least the ones who aren't criminally motivated.
Good evening gentlemen !
Found out from GAF that the free Identity Theft Protection sponsored by Sony may be ready, and can be activated from here:
http://us.playstation.com/news/consumeralerts/identity-theft-protection/
Found out from GAF that the free Identity Theft Protection sponsored by Sony may be ready, and can be activated from here:
http://us.playstation.com/news/consumeralerts/identity-theft-protection/
They have a long list of major corporations to go through then...
And the courts will have a interesting job on their hands when they get caught, and it´s extremely unlikely that everyone will get away. Major corporations have this long term annoying politics of suing everything that threatens them for eternity and beyond.
I hope the guys that are doing this are ready to pay with their adult lives for this.
I disagree, it serves to embarrass Sony as well as force them to spend money closing up security holes. In some cases, Sony has lost revenue from digital content due to their sites being down.
According to Sony, they have lost 171 million dollars from PSN being down. That doesn't sound pointless to me. What happens if PSN is hacked again after they've supposedly patched their holes? What kind of face is lost then? Who do they send to the press conference to "bow" and apologize?
In a way, I feel sorry for Sony as I think that it is critical for them to have a strong and vibrant Playstation, if only to keep MS and Nintendo honest and competitive. Sony even more than Nintendo forces MS to push technology and services this and next gen. And although I don't play my PS3 online, I have played more games on it lately than my X360.
Oh it won't be pointless... except that there are at least 4 perspectives: Sony, the hackers, innocent people, and
. Hopefully they can net some of the hackers. I'm kinda curious who they are (Are they really basement virgins like what GAF folks like to call 'em ?). 
the law enforcement folks
I see what your saying , but your wrong on how i see it.
I see it as the hackers showing us how bad sony's security was and how it was a complete fubar from every aspect of sony with regards to IT safe guards.
I think this is horrible , but you know what, at the end of the day hopefully this gets goverments to wake up and put pressure on sony and others to keep competent it security .
In fact if sony isn't fixing the issues and is brining systems back on that aren't really fixed or have other problems i hope the hackers hit them again and again until sony finally learns.
I hope to god that MS , nintendo , valve and everyone else is out there watching this and has teams at work trying to find out where they screwed up and plug the holes and if they aren't , then i hope someone hacks them to show them they aren't safe either.
True...and who's to say they won't if the opportunity presents itself.
The battle with geohot though was more public than most and seem to have gotten the attention of hackers with ill will. I willingly admit that I was pulling for geohot and was sad to see him settle.
I was hoping to see something similar to apps like the Ipod Touch on my PS3 hoping that Sony would embrace homebrew scene rather than punish it. When the PS3 first launched with the inclusion of OtherOS, it appeared that they were heading in that direction. It's ironic to see such a turnaround.
I don't want to have to install CFW. I'd rather it be offered and blessed by Sony via the PS Store. It has such great potential to be so much more than it is. BTW, this goes for MS as well.
I'm hoping that next gen will have something of an XNA to include more than just games.
There has to be a business model of sorts. ^_^
You may see more with Playstation Suite since it's available on Android. For now, I think their avenues are PSP Minis, PS Home, Pub Funds, etc.
I think jeff_rigby made some interesting discoveries while digging into PS3 web browser too:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=402172
EDIT: In any case, Sony and Nintendo will evolve. The "expensive game" platform will face more tests. Apple, Google and MS have other healthy revenue streams, so they may pursue the "cheap game" avenue more aggressively.
You may see more with Playstation Suite since it's available on Android. For now, I think their avenues are PSP Minis, PS Home, Pub Funds, etc.
I think jeff_rigby made some interesting discoveries while digging into PS3 web browser too:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=402172
EDIT: In any case, Sony and Nintendo will evolve. The "expensive game" platform will face more tests. Apple, Google and MS have other healthy revenue streams, so they may pursue the "cheap game" avenue more aggressively.
Absolutely, Sony can charge a percentage of the app cost kind of like how Apple and Android does now.
Of course it will be far more limited compared to a portable device. I'm thinking of a lot of what you see in XBMC via their plug-ins (AnimeFTW streaming, weather apps, etc). I'm getting off topic now, but you get the gist.
Those are already available. Sony has a "Skinny" app API for developers to create simple apps quickly (See Hulu Plus, NHL app, Vudu, etc.). They are based on web technologies.
What Sony need to do is to consolidate all these sub-platforms (Kinda like where Playstation Suite is heading ?)
What Sony need to do is to consolidate all these sub-platforms (Kinda like where Playstation Suite is heading ?)
What I find even more pathetic is that the media is jumping on everything that is supposedly 'hacked' that has anything remotely to do with Sony and labling it as if it's in some relation to what happened on PSN.
I could probably put up a site on the net and have a Sony logo somewhere on that page with the text "this has been hacked" and the media would surely jump on it.
Sony's website or the website of its business partners or sub companies run their own business and have their own websites/servers behind them. Some of them use 3rd party content-managment-systems (with probably dozens of security flaws or simply running on outdated servers) that are prone to attacks. It's not as if Sony as a cooporation has its entire fleet of servers of all it's sub divisions and subcompanies in a single location behind the same security mechanism nor has it got any relation to the PSN breach or PS3 hacking...
What if someone just starts bombing Sony facilities? It sounds like you just want their business to be destroyed. I think that's covered nicely under "petty" in the post of mine you quoted.
I think you should re-read my post. I am not anti-Sony by any means, in fact I want them to continue in the videogame market.
Don't be so dramatic. Just because I disagree with how they handled the hackers, doesn't mean I want them destroyed. In fact, I think Sony is critical for a competitive console ecosystem to thrive.
I'm fairly sure that Sony thinks the PR damage and funds lost are far from petty (as in minor or of little importance) and childish.
Sony Ericsson's Canada site gets hacked. Hackers post personal information on their website, challenging Sony.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110525/tc_afp/japancanadaitinternetsony
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110525/tc_afp/japancanadaitinternetsony
Obviously, but I think the hackers and their continued actions are petty and childish which is what I was talking about in the first place. Sony has been the victim of significant damages at the hands of criminals. They're spending even more to pacify as much of their fan base as possible. But as Phil points out, scouring the internet for disused, orphaned and retired servers with any vague connection to Sony and hacking them doesn't actually say very much about Sony's security or cost them very much money. All they're doing now is annoying more users a few hundred at a time.
I see your point. My take is that every time news is posted of another "Sony" site being hacked multiplies the embarrassment and perception that Sony is incompetent in on-line security.
It doesn't have to cost Sony actual dollars for there to be perceived harm.
You're right about that. In a Eurogamer news report about Sony's 5 hours of timetabled E3 keynote, some chump keeps on posting about these latest Sony hacks. The bad will is going to be going around and around. Is this all coming under the Anonymous umbrella? Are they claiming responsibility as an organisation, or is it just individual(s)?
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