REAL programmers write code in hex!

[Frank]

Are you a REAL programmer? Do you like second-guessing and correcting even an assembler by inlining your code directly? Or do you value other things?

 

[Frank]

I'm a quiche eater myself. I prefer (Object) Pascal.

 

[epicstruggle]

C++ for me. Although it really depends on your application/problem.

epic

 

[Demirug]

Hex is the only answer …

  int Pos = 0;

  buff[Pos++]=0x68;

  memmove(&buff[Pos],&dllStringptr,4);
  Pos+=4;

  buff[Pos++]=0xFF;
  buff[Pos++]=0x15;
  
  memmove(&buff[Pos],&LoadLibFuncptr,4);
  Pos+=4;

  if (strInitFunction != NULL)
  {
      buff[Pos++]=0x68;

	  memmove(&buff[Pos],&initStringptr,4);
	  Pos+=4;

	  buff[Pos++]= 0x50; // push eax  

	  buff[Pos++]=0xFF;
	  buff[Pos++]=0x15;
	  
	  memmove(&buff[Pos],&GetProcFuncptr,4);
	  Pos+=4;

	  buff[Pos++] = 0xFF; // call
	  buff[Pos++] = 0xD0; // eax
  }
  else
  {
	  buff[Pos++] = 0x33; //xor
	  buff[Pos++] = 0xC0; //eax
  }

  buff[Pos++] = 0xEB; // jmp 0 as stoppoint
  buff[Pos++] = 0xFE;

… for some problems

 

[archie4oz]

HEX is for pussies... It's all about binary opcodes...

 

[KimB]

Heh. Since words always come in multiples of four bits, Hex and binary are functionally identical

 

[darkblu]

HEX is for pussies... It's all about binary opcodes...

yep. on meters-high piles of punch cards..

i'm a sisy, though, i'd take a mini assembler any day to that : )

 

[Nick]

REAL programmers use C++ and dynamic code generation.

 

[Basic]

One of the frst times I entered the computer club at my university, there was a guy standing in front of a 19" rack flicking binary switches back'n forth. And yes indeed, he was programming the computer, entering binary opcodes straight from the head.

Reeeespect!



My usual languages:
Home stuff C++.
Work stuff C/C++ depending on project and processor, or asm for performance critical DSP stuff.

 

[DemoCoder]

Real C++ programmers use template metaprogramming and compile time calculation.

 

[Diplo]

Real programmers burn Eproms with just the power of their mind (and a fridge full of Jolt Cola).

 

[Nick]

Real C++ programmers use template metaprogramming and compile time calculation.

I very much wonder if these 'real' programmers have some 'real' application for template metaprogramming.

 

[LeGreg]

Real programmers write simulators for an imaginary machine, where they could design the byte code, the interfaces, and had to write an OS from scratch in order to run their programs.

Of course ideally all this would run with a pen and a piece of paper.

 

[soylent]

I very much wonder if these 'real' programmers have some 'real' application for template metaprogramming.

Loop unrolling?(for very small loops it can be a pretty good optimization still today).

 

[Mate Kovacs]

C++ for me, usually with peeking at the ASM output and "massaging" the (C++) code if necessary. BTW, it should read "C++ is TEH Standard", IMO.

I very much wonder if these 'real' programmers have some 'real' application for template metaprogramming.

How about forcing component-wise evaluation of vector expressions? Just take a look at e.g. the TinyVector class in Blitz++.

 

[Rodéric]

mmmh
What about : "Real programmers write designs, the code emerge by itself" ?

The language is irrelevant IMO, use the right one for the right job, depending on the target platform.

C++ is nice but sometimes I wish it would be different, same goes for JAVA, C# and almost any language I tried...

 

[Miksu]

.NET and user interfaces for me.

 

[Simon F]

One of the frst times I entered the computer club at my university, there was a guy standing in front of a 19" rack flicking binary switches back'n forth. And yes indeed, he was programming the computer, entering binary opcodes straight from the head.

If it's of any interest, this was my first computer:

Not binary, true, but definitely hex. I even upgraded it from .5k to 1.5k with a soldering iron.


Addition! Wow, the CPU in it, the 1802, still surely holds the record as the fastest!

 

[JHoxley]

Wait a second... you mean that there are other languages beyond HLSL and C++??

 

[Simon F]

Wait a second... you mean that there are other languages beyond HLSL and C++??

prolog!