RE4 announced for PS2.

I wonder if this could mean no more Zelda from Capcom :LOL: The Minnish Cap would be their last.
 
Bohdy said:
There is always a choice, and I think that Capcom made the wrong one in the long-term.

And I don't assume that Mikami has any influence, but I do assume that he was extremelly pissed off.

Oh, and this is a good one:

mikami_decapitation.jpg


:LOL:

That mock up only lacks reggie holding the chainshaw :LOL:

This move clearly shows that Capcom is really really screwed and needed a big hit to calm shareholders, Capcom poor performance this generation sales wise [and in a lot of cases, gameplay wise] plus delaying Xmas big hit DMC 3 must have put a lot of pressure in them.

I wonder if Nintendo really had an exclusive deal, if they did maybe they have been able to get something in return [ maybe next gen RE 5 exclusivity (even if its just only some time), or how about picking up RE 4 graphic engine? that would be sweet... -and would fullfill my wishes about seeing more games with that engine- ]

Or, well maybe it was only a word-agreement (Personally I doubt this scenario) and Nintendo just got totally fucked big time. :rolleyes:
 
Bohdy said:
There is always a choice, and I think that Capcom made the wrong one in the long-term.

Just wondering - what do you see as the long term negative repercussions for Capcom of porting this game to the PS2?
 
Tysan said:
I wonder if Nintendo really had an exclusive deal, if they did maybe they have been able to get something in return [ maybe next gen RE 5 exclusivity (even if its just only some time), or how about picking up RE 4 graphic engine? that would be sweet... -and would fullfill my wishes about seeing more games with that engine- ]

An exclusive deal contract just like any agreement have a lot of clauses, since the details are not publicly available we can only speculate.

But i'm sure this contract had some sorts of "minimum results" expectations. And if the projected sales fails to materialize then the exclusive deal will change (for instance no more FULL exclusivity but only temporary, etc). Seeing how REmake and RE0 or PN03 did, i think that's a credible assumption to make.

That's the only possible explanation i see for this, since there were obviously a full exclusivity contract at a moment or another (the numerous public evenst held by both parties, the Capcom PR repeating to no end that the games were exclusives, the Mikami clear statements, going as far as promising to cut his (stupid) head off, etc...).
 
Vysez said:
An exclusive deal contract just like any agreement have a lot of clauses, since the details are not publicly available we can only speculate.

But i'm sure this contract had some sorts of "minimum results" expectations. And if the projected sales fails to materialize then the exclusive deal will change (for instance no more FULL exclusivity but only temporary, etc). Seeing how REmake and RE0 or PN03 did, i think that's a credible assumption to make.

That's the only possible explanation i see for this, since there were obviously a full exclusivity contract at a moment or another (the numerous public evenst held by both parties, the Capcom PR repeating to no end that the games were exclusives, the Mikami clear statements, going as far as promising to cut his (stupid) head off, etc...).

Yup, Capcom have hinted some times about performance being a great deal with the exclusive status, but I thought that they were going to wait for GC sales and then take a decision.

The 'Weird' thing about the announcement is that it has been done two months prior GC release, if Capcom didnt want more GC exclusive they have had plenty of time after REmake and RE 0.

And obviously the announcement itself is going to affect GC sales, so all points at Capcom being pressured by fiscal results and shareholders to make the decision earlier than expected , they even mention it in the announcement ...

Under these environments, we have come to this conclusion after deliberating over customers’ needs, market environments, and various opinions from stakeholders such as shareholders or investors. We hope that this decision will create new demand and expand its fan base. At the same time, we also expect that the decision will bring about additional revenue base.

By deploying well-targeted promotions and supplying on software that goes along with various tastes of customers, we will strive for improving business results and customers’ satisfaction together with coping with changes of the business environments.


(And we know they give a damn about customers tastes, needs, etc...)

So Capcom has obviosly been presured to make the choice earlier than expected -before seeing RE 4 GC sales performance-, so if there was really an exclusive deal they must have had to talk with Nintendo.

Well, if there was really some kind of deal... [just speculating]
 
I knew a PlayStation 2 version was coming for over 6 months, but I wasn't allowed to tell anything about it by the person who told me. Apparantly he was right after all.

The reason why they started anew with RE4 was mostly to be able to create a PS2 version alongside the GameCube version. I fear for the look of the game however... Mikami isn't very fond of PlayStation 2...
Hmm, do you think that person was actually 'in the know' or just guessing. COme on, we need more juicy details on this.

I wouldn't worry much about Mikami ruining the port or anything, it's not up to him to program it :p Besides, his only PS2 game turned out to be one of the best looking PS2 games of it's time (DMC).

Why do yo think the new game direction allowed them to create it more easily on the PS2? If anything, the new game looks more complex, more dynamic, more open ended, and more difficult to make than the old 'mansion version' of RE4'
 
Johnny Awesome said:
Are there ANY more 3rd party exclusives for Cube?
Baten Kaitos is still certainly a notable one. I thought Geist, but I guess that's 2nd party, isn't it? And, er... Kinda got me there.
 
Tysan said:
So Capcom has obviosly been presured to make the choice earlier than expected -before seeing RE 4 GC sales performance-, so if there was really an exclusive deal they must have had to talk with Nintendo.

It's not at all unexpected for investors :cry: :) Just see this pathetic stock chart

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Capcom: " Hmmm... We want to reach out to as many people as possible when we launch Resident Evil 5 on "multiple" next-generation platforms.... you know, we ought make all efforts to expand our RE-fan-base as much as possible RIGHT NOW, in preparation for that likely future.

Mikami: "Hehehe, it's bound to stir up a whirlwind of emotions among "the blind ones," whose perceptions are only as deep as the depths of a dinner plate. Afterall, you know how it is with gaming forums and stuff. In the meanwhile, we'll need a scapegoat."

Capcom: ... ;)

Mikami: Huh? What? ... Oh boy! :(
 
one said:
Tysan said:
So Capcom has obviosly been presured to make the choice earlier than expected -before seeing RE 4 GC sales performance-, so if there was really an exclusive deal they must have had to talk with Nintendo.

It's not at all unexpected for investors :cry: :) Just see this pathetic stock chart

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Indeed...

:oops:
 
function said:
Bohdy said:
There is always a choice, and I think that Capcom made the wrong one in the long-term.

Just wondering - what do you see as the long term negative repercussions for Capcom of porting this game to the PS2?

There are a few I can think of: It's well known that Mikami hates the Ps2 and its pretty clear going by previous comments from devs that the entire RE4 team was not expecting a Ps2 port, so it could be breeding a good amount of dissatisfaction. Also, Capcom might have to spend a lot of cash getting the game to run "intact" on the Ps2 which better pay off or else.

Then there is Nintendo. Even discounting the the possibility that Capcom knowingly broke a binding contract and that Nintendo would sue them for it, Re4 was going to be a big deal for the Cube. Nintendo must have felt it just stop being a system seller quite strongly. Capcom does a lot of business with the big N (gba zeldas) and they could suddenly find themselves getting the cold shoulder with those, DS support and even into next-gen consoles.

This was a desperate move from Capcom and I think that it has a lot of possibility for not paying off, or even leaving them in a worse position.
 
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